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Hi!

I was playing a game the other week using a Stompa with a big mek inside to repair it. This big Mek had a KFF on him to give the stompa a 5 up invuln against shooting. My opponent reminded me at one point that models within 6" of it would get the invuln save. I told him that it only goes to the vehicle of the mek is inside of it, but he insisted that the bubble went to the vehicle and then goes 6 inches out to shield the rest.

The way I understand the rules it would seem that only the vehicle in which the KFF carrier is in gets the save while those around them do not, but if the KFF bearers was outside of the stompa within 6 of it and another unit then all the models within 6" (including the stompa) would get the 5+ invuln.

So does the KFF go to the vehicle and then 6 out to shield others or just to the vehicle that it is in?

Also on another note: Do the alternative stompa choices (Kustom and Buzzgobs stompa) have the effigy special rule granting a 6" bubble of fearless?

And on a tactical note: If my interpretation is correct do you guys think it would make sense to keep the mek behind the stompa in this case to shield as many models as possible or is this too much of a risk? I am also thinking of putting a KFF on a biker mek for a quick and mobile 5+ for vehicle swarms and LOS block the mek from enemy fire. Sound legit?

This is more for YMDC.

But KFF only goes to vehicle. Quick fix is exactly as you said, give him a warbike and hide him behind the stompa. Can still fix outside and have the 5++ but also a 6" bubble.

You would have to check rules for effigy. The IA:8 book is hopefully being rereleased soon, might five them it might not.

It specifically says it works your way in the rules for the KFF. That should've been something of an easy debate to settle.

It USED to work that way, sort of. Different save, but that premise. So KFF mek in a BW would provide saves to all the other BW, trukks, and (especially) kanz nearby.

KFF Mek inside = transport only receives the 5+ Invulnerable save against shooting.
KFF Mek outside = models within 6" receive the 5+ Invulnerable save against shooting.

Just show your opponent the entry in the current Ork Codex (2014). The old way was a that all units within the 6" bubble received a 5+ cover save against shooting, whether the KFF Mek was inside a transport or not.

there are vehicles with their own kff those also emit the aura


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also there is a 4+ version in waagh ghzkull it might be worth it

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:


And on a tactical note: If my interpretation is correct do you guys think it would make sense to keep the mek behind the stompa in this case to shield as many models as possible or is this too much of a risk? I am also thinking of putting a KFF on a biker mek for a quick and mobile 5+ for vehicle swarms and LOS block the mek from enemy fire. Sound legit?

The best load out is to put a unit of Lootas with 3 Meks in the Stompa along with a unit of Gretchin for Objective Secured and a Big Mek with the Mega Force Field for 4++

That way you get 5 repair rolls, a Big Mek Stompa with the functionality of Objective Secured, and a Super Heavy Walker with 4++ invul against shooting.

That is by far NOT the best load out....
Supper heavy transports don't have a 1 unit max capacity so you can just fill it with any kinds of meks.

Also the real tactical advantage of a stompa is his fearless aura. Remember that gone to ground tyranid trick. Now orks can do it too and fearless Mek gun lines are great.

Sad note the current codex stompa is horrible over costed filling it to the top with meks might not be the best way to spend your points.

I run buzzgobs and load it down with both deff kannons and shoot everything and have two units of fearless gretchin surround its base so it cant be charged.

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
IAlso on another note: Do the alternative stompa choices (Kustom and Buzzgobs stompa) have the effigy special rule granting a 6" bubble of fearless?

If you are playin a game based on the ITC house rules: Buzzgobs Stompa is the Big Mek stompa you can find in te GW appoc 2013 book and you pay the points for a IA8 Kustom stompa. Ther is no way to get that Kustom Stompa from IA8 it is forbidden by the ITC.
The GW appoc 2013 book has the following rules for EFFIGY: All friendly units chosen from Codex: Orks within 6" of a Stompa have the Fearless special rule.

If you are playing a game based on the rules instead of ITC house rulings then things are really murky.
First IA8 is a book written in 5th no longer sold and no longer supported by an update.
Second the FW lord of war update document is no longer supported. Thus orks now have no official FW lords of war.
If you decide to field one in unbound or Appoc and you don't mind using the outdated rules then you should really ask your opponent or organiser for any mismatching rules.

 oldzoggy wrote:
there are vehicles with their own kff those also emit the aura


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also there is a 4+ version in waagh ghzkull it might be worth it

The Morkanaut is the only one I see, which other vehicles can take the KFF without carrying a character?
I was looking to get a 'naut and I like the gork weapons better, but with the other version being able to take a KFF that can extend from the hull... I think I am leaning towards Kunnin' but Brutal instead

If you dont mind using IA8
-the Mek boy junka. It does have a Junka foce field genetaror that thing is even more kustom then a kustom force field generator

Imperial armour apocalypse 2013
Kustom mega dread can take Kustom Force Field that gives cover to all models friend or foe. It is basicly a pre 7th FW gorkanaut with Less hp no caring capacity and slightly different weapons. for approx the same points. On top of it you can only field it if you field an other mega dread. You have to love it ;_)

 oldzoggy wrote:
If you dont mind using IA8
-the Mek boy junka. It does have a Junka foce field genetaror that thing is even more kustom then a kustom force field generator

Imperial armour apocalypse 2013
Kustom mega dread can take Kustom Force Field that gives cover to all models friend or foe. It is basicly a pre 7th FW gorkanaut with Less hp no caring capacity and slightly different weapons. for approx the same points. On top of it you can only field it if you field an other mega dread. You have to love it ;_)

Interesting, thanks!