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I’m currently in the process of starting a new Renegade and Heretics army and want to use the new Unending Host Detachment and would like some comments and criticism as this is my first Vraks list.


Renegade Command Squad – 235pts
Arch Demagogue – PF, Refractor Field, Banner of Hate, Command Net Vox, Flamer, 11x Lasgun, Militia Training

Renegade Infantry Platoon – 285pts
Command Squad – Renegade Champion, Sigil, Command Net Vox, Flamer, 11x Autopistol & CCW, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Autopistol & CCW, 3x Flamers, Militia Training
Squad 2 – 12x Autopistol & CCW, 3x Flamers, Militia Training
Squad 3 – 12x Autopistol & CCW, 3x Flamers, Militia Training

Renegade Infantry Platoon – 435pts
Command Squad – Renegade Champion, Sigil, Command Net Vox, Melta, 11x Lasgun, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Lasgun, 3x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 2 – 12x Lasgun, 3x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 3 – 12x Lasgun, 3x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 4 – 12x Lasgun, 3x Plasmagun, Militia Training


Renegade Infantry Platoon – 335pts
Command Squad – Renegade Champion, Sigil, Command Net Vox, Meltagun, 11x Autogun, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Autogun, 3x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Autogun, 3x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Autogun, 3x Meltagun, Militia Training

Plague Zombies x20 – 60pts

Baneblade – Militia Training – 500pts

That’s 210 models that are coming back on a 2+ once they bite it, with 20 Meltaguns, 10 Flamers and 3 Plasmaguns. I think the only possible issue is anti air but I plan on just ignoring that. I will space out enough troops so the enemy is always firing though bodies for a 3+ cover save for the Baneblade. Any comments or criticisms are more than welcome.

Thanks!

No real leadership modifiers other than your coand squads? That's a bold move cotton, let's see if it pays off.

Personally, I'd like to throw a Sigil in each group as it's only 5 pts and they'll be (sort of) fearless but since they do come back on a 2+ it's up to you. I'd hate to waste 3 turns running off the board when I could just charge them into their deaths within 2.

Also your command squads are very expensive. You know the ArchDemegogue becomes a character right? With that he is allowed to split from his command squad and hop into a bigger, meatier squad for safety.

You're bane will be big blast templates. I'd see what you could do about hiting something like that hard before your long marchacross the table

Drop a special weapon and swap for chaos Sigil in all your infantry squads. Give them all Krak grenades.

I was wondering about the extra special vs a sigil in each squad. I'll change that up.

The plan with blast templates is to just die. Outflank in a better position. The baneblade will obviously be targeting then main threats and should be reasonable survivable with its 3+ cover.

D'oh!! Just been rereading thought the command squads came back too, hence the 15 models. I'll have to make quite a few changes now.

Right, I've had another crack and taking in to account the comments above and some more C&C welcome. Thanks

Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue – PF, Refractor Field,
Banner of Hate,
Command Net Vox, Las Cannon Team

Renegade Enforcer
Combat Drugs,


Renegade Infantry Platoon
Command Squad – Sigil, Command Net Vox, 4x Flamer, 24x Autopistol & CCW, Militia Training, krak grenades (Arch demegouge and Enforcer go here)
Squad 1 – 12x Autopistol & CCW, Sigil, 2x Flamers, Militia Training, krak grenades
Squad 2 – 12x Autopistol & CCW, Sigil, 2x Flamers, Militia Training, krak grenades
Squad 3 – 12x Autopistol & CCW, Sigil, 2x Flamers, Militia Training, krak grenades

Renegade Infantry Platoon
Command Squad – Sigil, 2x Melta, 12x Lasgun, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Lasgun, Sigil, 2x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 2 – 12x Lasgun, Sigil, 2x Meltagun, Militia Training
Squad 3 – 12x Lasgun, Sigil, 2x Meltagun, Militia Training


Renegade Infantry Platoon
Command Squad – Renegade Champion, Sigil, 2x Plasmagun, 11x Autogun, Militia Training, krak grenades
Squad 1 – 12x Autogun, Sigil, 2x Plasmagun, krak grenades, Militia Training
Squad 1 – 12x Autogun, Sigil, 2x Plasmagun, krak grenades, Militia Training


Plague Zombies x20
Plague Zombies x20

Baneblade – Militia Training – 500pts

That comes to 1830, was thinking about putting champs in the CCW squads. What do you guys think?

Take min squad size zombies.

With points saved give enforcer powerfist. Buy a Demagogue for your large platoon command squad and give covenant of Nurgle. Give covenant of Khorne to your Arch Demagogue.

Those upgrades should equal the 60 points you save by taking minim sized zombie squads.

Like it. Thanks very much. Forgot to say I already had 20 points to spare. Powerfist on the demegouge?