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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 18:04:35
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Been Around the Block
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I'm trying to build an army with the units I have and unfortunately, I don't have a tank for my terminators/assault terminators. What are the major downsides to hiding them behind a rhino to advance into melee range?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 18:57:19
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Raging Ravener
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The first issue is that they are slow. In a Land Raider you could move them 18¨ in a turn and then disembard 6¨ on the next turn, ready to charge. Plus, of course, the fact that they can be shot at outside of the tank, even if they can't be seen, by Barrage weapons and alot of Tau units as well as some others.
That being said, you could just deepstrike them and they'd probably be in position faster than they would be on foot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 19:02:41
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Someone could go around it/deep strike in/be a flyer/shoot a barrage weapon at them?
You would be hard pressed to successfully hide 5 terminators behind a rhino.
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"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 19:22:52
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Been Around the Block
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Windir83 wrote:The first issue is that they are slow. In a Land Raider you could move them 18¨ in a turn and then disembard 6¨ on the next turn, ready to charge. Plus, of course, the fact that they can be shot at outside of the tank, even if they can't be seen, by Barrage weapons and alot of Tau units as well as some others.
That being said, you could just deepstrike them and they'd probably be in position faster than they would be on foot.
How would I be able to deep strike them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 20:46:19
Subject: Re:What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The biggest problem with hidng units behind vehicles is that you're giving blast weapons the opportunity to hit two targets instead of just one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 21:35:22
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Missionary On A Mission
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kNyne83 wrote: Windir83 wrote:The first issue is that they are slow. In a Land Raider you could move them 18¨ in a turn and then disembard 6¨ on the next turn, ready to charge. Plus, of course, the fact that they can be shot at outside of the tank, even if they can't be seen, by Barrage weapons and alot of Tau units as well as some others.
That being said, you could just deepstrike them and they'd probably be in position faster than they would be on foot.
How would I be able to deep strike them?
Terminator armour grants the Deep Strike rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 21:38:23
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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What pulling off that scene from fury?
Its do able. even if they HP the tanks out they stay and BLOS (IIRC). if they explode then the guys behind are in trouble.
Also stay a little further back to avoid blasts. and hope the enemy doesn't have fliers or second story buildings or hills.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 23:19:30
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Humorless Arbite
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I do that quite a lot with my IG (not with terminators).
I have my allied Land Raider (with troops in it) moving up the field slowly with troops walking behind it for cover. It's often very effective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 23:45:45
Subject: What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Plus, LOS works both ways. If they can't shoot your terminators, your terminators can't shoot them (if they have guns, that is).
But yeah, hiding terminators behind something as small as a rhino isn't going to be effective for long, especially if there's terrain with any elevation.
Deep striking is a good option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/09 00:35:01
Subject: Re:What are the main issues with hiding units behind a tank instead of being inside of it.
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Vehicles aren't true scale, they are smaller. So it is difficult to correctly hide, say, a full 10 marines Tac squad behind it.
As it has been said, it is easier with LR because they are big enough, but not everyone play with LR...
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