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Looking for tweaks or advice on this 1850 Ork list.

Obvious weaknesses are no AA and no antipsyker.
Its a basic rush list, no real finesse.

+++ New Roster (1847pts) +++

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Painboy ['Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools, HQ]
····Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) [Da Rippa, HQ, Sitkkbombz, Slugga, Warlord, Zhadsnark]
····Da Beast [Twin-linked Big Shoota]

+ Troops +

Boyz
····Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs]
····13x Boy [13x Choppa, 13x Slugga, 13x Stikkbombs]

Boyz
····Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs]
····14x Boy [14x Choppa, 14x Slugga, 14x Stikkbombs]

Boyz
····Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs]
····14x Boy [14x Choppa, 14x Slugga, 14x Stikkbombs]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers
····4x Warbiker [4x Choppa, 4x Slugga]
········4x Warbike [4x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]
····Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
········Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers
····6x Warbiker [6x Choppa, 6x Slugga]
········6x Warbike [6x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Fast Attack +

Deffkoptas
····Deffkopta [Buzzsaw, Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

Deffkoptas
····Deffkopta [Buzzsaw, Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

Deffkoptas
····Deffkopta [Buzzsaw, Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

+ Heavy Support +

Battlewagon [Wreckin' Ball]

Battlewagon [Wreckin' Ball]

Battlewagon [Wreckin' Ball]

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Ork Horde Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Painboy ['Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools, HQ]
····Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Troops +

Gretchin
····10x Gretchin [10x Grot Blasta]
····Runtherd [Grabba stik, Slugga, Stikkbombs]

Gretchin
····10x Gretchin [10x Grot Blasta]
····Runtherd [Grabba stik, Slugga, Stikkbombs]

Gretchin
····10x Gretchin [10x Grot Blasta]
····Runtherd [Grabba stik, Slugga, Stikkbombs]

+ Heavy Support +

Lootas
····7x Loota [7x Deffgun, 7x Stikkbombs]

Lootas
····7x Loota [7x Deffgun, 7x Stikkbombs]

Mek Gunz [3x Ammo Runt]
····5x Lobba w/ Grots
········10x Gretchin [10x Choppa]

Created with BattleScribe (http://www.battlescribe.net)

I tweaked this slighty to suit local games.
Any critiques?

+++ New Roster (1846pts) +++

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Painboy ['Urty Syringe, Bosspole, Dok's Tools, 2x Grot Orderly, HQ]
····Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) [Da Rippa, HQ, Sitkkbombz, Slugga, Warlord, Zhadsnark]
····Da Beast [Twin-linked Big Shoota]

+ Troops +

Boyz
····Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs]
····17x Boy [17x Choppa, 17x Slugga, 17x Stikkbombs]

Boyz
····Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs]
····17x Boy [17x Choppa, 17x Slugga, 17x Stikkbombs]

Boyz
····Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs]
····17x Boy [17x Choppa, 17x Slugga, 17x Stikkbombs]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers
····5x Warbiker [5x Choppa, 5x Slugga]
········5x Warbike [5x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]
····Warbiker Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Slugga]
········Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

Zhadsnark's Warbikers
····5x Warbiker [5x Choppa, 5x Slugga]
········5x Warbike [5x Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Fast Attack +

Deffkoptas
····Deffkopta [Buzzsaw, Choppa, Twin-linked Big Shoota]

Deffkoptas
····Deffkopta [Buzzsaw, Choppa, Twin-linked Big Shoota]

+ Heavy Support +

Battlewagon

Battlewagon

Battlewagon

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Ork Horde Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Painboy ['Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools, 2x Grot Orderly, HQ]
····Warbike [Twin-linked Dakkaguns]

+ Troops +

Gretchin
····10x Gretchin [10x Grot Blasta]
····Runtherd [Grabba stik, Slugga, Stikkbombs]

Gretchin
····10x Gretchin [10x Grot Blasta]
····Runtherd [Grabba stik, Slugga, Stikkbombs]

Gretchin
····10x Gretchin [10x Grot Blasta]
····Runtherd [Grabba stik, Slugga, Stikkbombs]

+ Heavy Support +

Lootas
····7x Loota [7x Deffgun, 7x Stikkbombs]

Lootas
····7x Loota [7x Deffgun, 7x Stikkbombs]

Lootas
····7x Loota [7x Deffgun, 7x Stikkbombs]

Created with BattleScribe (http://www.battlescribe.net)

Well, a nice list. Definatly worth playing!!!

I'd say you don't need Buzzsaw on your Deffkoptas. They are fast units for achieving Tactical Objectives or annoying the enemy. So safe 50 pts and get more bikes.

Also I'd make one big bikers unit with Boss and Painboy plus one or two small bikers units (3-4 models) to cover the Boss unit.

And think about some Meganobs for you list.

I may be wrong but I don't think you can take more than one orderly on your pain boys.

Any particular reason you are using the horde over another cad or a great waaagh detachmen? The points you save from the one unit of grots could give the wagons some rams and rokkits to help them get there. Nothing worse than your opponent getting weapon destroyed on a naked wagon turn 1. If you go great waaagh you can try to bring meganobz in a wagon as another threat so they have to choose between them and the large bike mob.

Yeah, always put rams and at least one weapon on a Battlewagon. The rams make it only a 1/36 chance you'll get stuck on difficult (but it does happen, usually on turn one for some reason), and it gives you a S9 attack when ramming. The guns, as mentioned above, keep the Battlewagon moving if you get hit by a weapon destroyed.

Something i been thinking about recently...void shield generator to protect you first turn and shield the lootas all game?

Thanks for the feedback guys!
I took buzzsaws mainly for harassing rear vehicle armor but agreed they are a big points sink.
So far they have worked okish. Im unsure.

I picked the CAD/horde because I have 6 heavy slots and couldnt figure out a formation or second cad to get in more.
Any ideas on what might be better (I'd definitely like to keep the 3x BWs and at least 2x Lootas)?

VSG could definitely work but I cant find points to incorporate it.

I would get rid of the battlewagons and put ork boys in trukks. They are faster and offer object sec unit. Then youll have points for a void shield generator. Trukks are faster and battlewagons are just not worth the points, IMO

If it's a rush list I would include the Blitz Brigade. Free 12" movement? Yes please!

I would probably drop the Lootas if you go BB, Mek Gunz are durable enough to stop becoming FB bait.

 Frozocrone wrote:
If it's a rush list I would include the Blitz Brigade. Free 12" movement? Yes please!

I would probably drop the Lootas if you go BB, Mek Gunz are durable enough to stop becoming FB bait.

You cant take Mek Gunz if Zhadsnark is your warlord, part of the rules

Didn't even see Zhadsnark there :/