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 nullBolt wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
The article you linked itself points out how the tests are inaccurate and shouldn't ever be used as stand-alone evidence (see below). If the age range is 16-20, then what? You still haven't explained how you can tell a person's "true" age just by looking at a photograph of them.

So when the police ask you to identify someone's age, you just say, "I DONT KNOW MR POLICEMAN I'M NOT PSYCHIC SIR"? Genuinely, your logic is nonsense. But then again, I'm not shocked considering how awful your logic was in the last thread about this sort of thing.

Yeah, that post really isn't a good example to use if you're trying to argue that your logic is superior to AlmightyWalrus's.

To explain; assuming that "arab culture" is homogenous automatically assigns traits and features to them as a group because of the definition of the word homogenous. It assumes that they're all the same, and therefore have the same traits and features.

Also, have you tried not referring to people as "kiddo"? Generally people are more receptive to opposing views if they feel that they're discussing things with someone that isn't a condescending ass.

 Da Boss wrote:
I saw some numbers (sorry, I can't remember where) that suggested it was roughly a 50/50 split between young men and families.

They're lies.

 nullBolt wrote:
Here's another one for you guys: A Munich girl got raped and her sister sexually assaulted by Syrian migrants at a public pool.

 Goliath wrote:
Yeah, that post really isn't a good example to use if you're trying to argue that your logic is superior to AlmightyWalrus's.

Have you tried not referring to people as "kiddo"? Generally people are more receptive to opposing views if they feel that they're discussing things with someone that isn't a condescending ass.

People are never receptive to opposing viewpoints in a discussion. The goal is to convince everyone else who is reading. AlmightyWalrus is too emotionally invested to change his opinion.

Okay. "everyone else who is reading" are less likely to listen to a person if they come across as a condescending ass.

 Goliath wrote:
Maybe we should just let them all drown in the Aegean?

To be honest, it would stop them coming. And therefore stop them dying.

Well, at least your views are consistent.

 nullBolt wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
I've made no such claims, I've been wanting to know how you can accurately decide whether a person is a child or not just by looking at a picture of said person if the person is close to 18 years old. I've made no claims about five-year olds compared to eight-year olds or a twelve-year old compared to a thirty-year old, that's a strawman.

Almighty, I don't know if you're joking or not but none of the pictures of the people earlier in the thread look -anything- close to eighteen. These are some grown guys who are taller than a well-fed Swedish PM.

A prime minister whose height we don't know. And also, I was 6'2 at the age of 17. I rowed with a guy that could grow a full beard and was 6'9 at the age of 15. Kids come in all shapes and sizes, and immediately going "well he looks too tall" is daft.

Besides which, they all (other than possibly the 2nd from the right and the far left (whose face I can't quite make out due to the light falling on it)) look to be younger than me by a good few years, and I'm 21.