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Hello all, new to space marines purchased a bunch of marines from the dark vengence set to start my army. I have experience in modding and what not and started a few conversions.

So after reading through the Space marine codex and the tonsod options and formations i believe i have settled on a start out point. Tricks and tips encouraged. Be kind, brutal and honest.

Currently looks like im at 1640 points.
I can add tactical squads as i have a few from some Dark vengeance set.

HQ: Chaptermaster on bike, power fist, shield eternal artificer armor250
HQ: 3X Librarians on bike 1xlevel 2(conclave formation) -280

HQ: Chaplain on bike
HQ:Command squad with apothecary 1xpf bikes 2xmelta guns( reclusiarch command)-295


Trps:5x bikes 2x plasma gun-135
Trps:5x bikes 2x plasma gun-135
Trps:5x bikes 2x melta guns-125

Fast attack: 10x assaultmarines 2x flamers 1x pf-205


Heavy support:5x devastators 4x plasma cannons-130
Heavy support:5x devastators 4x Missile launchers-130

Your Reclusiam Command MUST take a Razorback as DT. Or have you included it in the points?

I find PC Devastators rather lacking, I would switch to something else.
You also have no AA at all, you could purchase Flakk missiles for the ML Devastators, but that bumps up their cost and you could just drop them for something better.

You take lots of bikes, but don't take a single Grav Gun? Bikes enable you to shoot the full salvo, this is their greatest strength.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Your Reclusiam Command MUST take a Razorback as DT. Or have you included it in the points?

I find PC Devastators rather lacking, I would switch to something else.
You also have no AA at all, you could purchase Flakk missiles for the ML Devastators, but that bumps up their cost and you could just drop them for something better.

You take lots of bikes, but don't take a single Grav Gun? Bikes enable you to shoot the full salvo, this is their greatest strength.

Thanks for the reply, currently just using what came from some bits off ebay from Dark Vengeance. I currently do not have bits for grav guns. The Assaultmarines are second hand from a friend. What would be suggested for anti air? Also what heavy weapons would be considered better over plasma cannons? I could switch out for maybe lascannons?
Didnt realize i couldnt take bikes with reclusiarch command. I can use those points for tactical marines instead.

In fact, you CAN use bikes for the Reclusiam Command. But your restriction is, that they must have a Razorback as DT. So you need to pay the points for one. They can't mount it with their bikes, though.

I don't know about Stalker/Hunters for AA, but one or two Storm Talons with Skyhammers would be good and cheap AA, while also providing BS5 support fire to ground targets. Other than that, a Deredeo or Sicaran are good AA units (but expensive).

Lascannon Devs are good long range support, or you could take 4 Grav Cannons and stick them into the Razorback from your Reclusiam Command.