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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/14 15:16:54
Subject: [1850] - Eldar w/ GK - "friendly" list, No WK, only 1 per 3 Scatterbikes
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I put together this list specifically to play if my opponent is NOT any of the following:
Space Marines with the free transport detachment
Necron Decurion
Tau (since I'm not familiar with the new stuff)
Other Eldar
any army with an Imperial Knight or similar Super Heavy/Garg
If my opponent isn't any of the above, I will follow these rules for army construction: No WraithKnight or Wraithguard, only 1 Scatterlaser per 3 bikes.
--Eldar CAD---[641pts]
_______HQ_________
115--Farseer Skyrunner
______TROOPS_________
122--6 Windriders w/ 2 Scatterlasers
61---3 Windriders w/ 1 Scatterlaser
61---3 Windriders w/ 1 Scatterlaser
61---3 Windriders w/ 1 Scatterlaser
61---3 Windriders w/ 1 Scatterlaser
________FAST___________
160--Crimson Hunter Exarch
---Aspect Host Formation---[435pts]
90---5 Swooping Hawks w/ Exarch
90---5 Swooping Hawks w/ Exarch
120--5 Fire Dragons w/ Exarch
135--Wave Serpent w/ TL Shuricannons, Holofields & Shuricannon
--Grey Knight Nemesis Strike Force---[773pts]
_______HQ_________
115—Librarian w/ Hammer
______TROOPS_________
208—5 Terminators
--2 Halberds, 1 Hammer
--1 Psycannon & Halberd
--Justicar w/ Halberd & melta bombs
_______Heavy___________
225—DreadKnight w/ Personal teleporter, Great sword,
Heavy Psycannon & Heavy Incinerator
225—DreadKnight w/ Personal teleporter, Great sword,
Heavy Psycannon & Heavy Incinerator
-----15 units, 5 Objective secured-------[1849] pts total
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/01/14 15:24:31
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/15 13:38:10
Subject: [1850] - Eldar w/ GK - "friendly" list, No WK, only 1 per 3 Scatterbikes
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Fresh-Faced New User
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But you can't take more than 1 Scatter Laser per 3 jetbikes anyway. Also, I would at least drop aviation if I wanted to play a friendly game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/15 15:56:13
Subject: [1850] - Eldar w/ GK - "friendly" list, No WK, only 1 per 3 Scatterbikes
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Actually, EVERY jetbike can take either a Scatterlaser or Shuricannon. That is one of the main reasons Eldar are such a hard army for most to face. If you took that away, made the WK about 400pts and took away D-weapons, Eldar would still be a top tier army, but probably not the top top-tier army.
By 'Aviation', do you mean the Crimson Hunter? I have it in the list as my only long ranged anti-air, anti-tank. It is so fragile that it comes on the board, maybe pops a tank then dies to bolter fire, of have to jink, making it worthless. I think dropping the Exarch upgrade might be good enough to balance it for friendly games, though.
What could I use those 20pts on?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/15 15:58:10
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/15 20:48:35
Subject: [1850] - Eldar w/ GK - "friendly" list, No WK, only 1 per 3 Scatterbikes
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I don't understand the connection between premise and conclusion. If you're going to play friendly, play friendly. Striking Scorpions and Banshees valiantly defending Wraithlords ought to do it.
And yet your final list is still min-maxing, just under a new set of criteria. This form of self handicap is bizarre; why not just come to some social agreement rather than try and establish a new set of hard rules?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/16 15:34:07
Subject: [1850] - Eldar w/ GK - "friendly" list, No WK, only 1 per 3 Scatterbikes
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I think it's a good idea - not taking the three most horrifically undercosted things in the eldar codex is at least giving a nod towards everyone playing on the same level. It'll be more fun to play and be played against as a result. I think you can still play to win even if you deny yourself the most broken units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/18 19:40:56
Subject: [1850] - Eldar w/ GK - "friendly" list, No WK, only 1 per 3 Scatterbikes
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Cieged wrote:I don't understand the connection between premise and conclusion. If you're going to play friendly, play friendly. Striking Scorpions and Banshees valiantly defending Wraithlords ought to do it.
And yet your final list is still min-maxing, just under a new set of criteria. This form of self handicap is bizarre; why not just come to some social agreement rather than try and establish a new set of hard rules?
Because I want to stay relatively competitive. Scorpions & Banshees are great for "fun, I don't care who wins" games (and for those, I can get out my Harlequins), but my purpose in this is to retain a tough list without resorting to the units that people find most offensive about playing Eldar. I will always play bikes, as I have since 4th ed (ya know, when Eldar weren't considered anywhere near top of the pyramid)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/18 19:42:07
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