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Hi guys, what do you thing about my first 1250pts list? Is it playable?

HQ
Chaos lord,Mon,Bike
100pts

Troops
6 Plague Marines, 2x Plasma,Rhino, Dirge caster
214pts

Troops
6 Plague Marines, 2x Plasma,Rhino, Dirge caster
214pts

Troops
7 Plague Marines, 2x Melta,Rhino, Dirge caster
228pts

FA
4 Bikers, MoN,2x Melta
134pts

FA
3 Bikers, 2x Melta, MoN
108pts

FA
2 Chos Spawn, MoN
72

HS
1 Obliterator, MoN
76pts

HS
1 Obliterator, MoN
76pts

Overall 1222 pts

And what with the rest points? 1 plague marine, biker or 2 havoc launchers?


Thanks for your suggestions.

You gotta give your chaos lord some proper close combat wepaons

One popular loadout for lord is a powerfist and a lightning claw - that way you can choose which one to use and you get +1 attack.

Some changes I would suggest:

Drop a unit of marines, take more spawn.

Change your lord for a sorcerer and roll on telepathy to try and get invisibility and/or shrouding

You will find your army will struggle against eldar/tau/necrons/space marines BUT there are some tricks you can do to mitigate that.

Trying to get invisibility is one of them, so running 2 sorcerers on bikes to make invisible 5 man spawn units or taking Belakor (he has his own datasheet) for your HQ he auto comes with invisibilty.

Also, maulerfiends are great they are really fast, pack a punch and are very cheap for what you get out of them.

Heldrakes are great also, suggest taking atleast 1.

Been a while since I read the chaos codex so apologies if this advice is moot but lord needs:
Combat weapons (power fist and lightning claw is great as mentioned )
Also blight grenades (if he can have them) because if I remember right they reduce an opponenta attack by 1?

warren0110 wrote:
Been a while since I read the chaos codex so apologies if this advice is moot but lord needs:
Combat weapons (power fist and lightning claw is great as mentioned )
Also blight grenades (if he can have them) because if I remember right they reduce an opponenta attack by 1?

Yes Blight Grenades are awesome. They remove the attack bonus for charging, so effectively -1 attack in that round if you get charged. With his mobility he hopefully won't get charged too often unless he gets stuck out after failing a charge of his own. They are also really good though because you can toss them as a Blind grenade. They don't work reliably against Space Marines/Eldar, but against low initiative guys like Tau and Necrons they are fantastic. Making everything WS1 for (hopefully) 2 rounds of combat does wonders for your damage and survivability.

Edit: grammar

I would also give that lord an invuln save.

I would drop the plague marines down to 5 man squads. 5 guys die the same as 6 or 7 and you still get 2 specialist weapons. The Plague Champ is I3 so he always hits lst against marines... You mine as well give them powerfists to double out opponents and have ap2

Yeah, drop the plague marines down to 5 man squads. Give your Lord some weapons and a Sigil Of Corruption. See how you're doing points-wise after that, but if you can afford it stick some Havoc launchers on some Rhinos.

drop the squads to 5 man squads, drop one unit of bikes, get more spawn, make the lord have some decent combat weapons, drop the dirge casters and beef the oblits more

Thanks guys for advices. I will certainly give a try to more spawns, better cc weapons for lord and maybe add a lv3 sorcerer. What would be a best layout for him? I cant have 2 sorcerers because i need a MoN on HQ to have plague marines as troops i guess. Helldrake is also my maybe choice.i dont like the GW model, so im trying to built my own, but its still lot of work. And what about Predator is it a death option with this set of rules?

So far

5 Plague Marines, 2x Plasma,Rhino ...185pts
5 Plague Marines, 2x Plasma,Rhino ...185pts

4 Bikers, 2x Melta,MoN ...134pts
1 Lord, bike,MoN,L.Claw,P.fist ...140pts
5 Spawns, MoN ...180pts
1 Sorcerer, lvl3,bike,L.Claw ...145pts

1 Obliterator, Mon ...76pts
1 Obliterator, Mon ...76pts
1 Obliterator, Mon ...76pts
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1197pts