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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 17:25:43
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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So in two weeks i will go to a 1 cad no SH/GC tournament. Of course i want to win so i want to bring with me tha most chesse i can.
I know for fact that i will meet a double wing hive tyrand and double carnifex list. Also a full mech IG with 3 punishers.
I belive also the tournament will have nexrons and deamonkin.
So what can i change what can i do better??
++ Eldar Craftworlds: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++
+ HQ +
Autarch [Banshee mask, Faolchu's Wing, Fusion gun, Shuriken pistol, Warp jump generator]
+ Troops +
Windriders [3x Windrider with Scatter laser]
Windriders [3x Windrider with Scatter laser]
Windriders [3x Windrider with Scatter laser]
Windriders [3x Windrider with Scatter laser]
Windriders [3x Windrider with Scatter laser]
Windriders [3x Windrider with Scatter laser]
+ Fast Attack +
Swooping Hawks [5x Swooping Hawk]
Swooping Hawk Exarch [Lasblaster]
Warp Spiders [5x Warp Spider]
Warp Spiders [5x Warp Spider]
+ Heavy Support +
Vaul's Wrath Support Battery
Support weapon [D-cannon]
Vaul's Wrath Support Battery
Support weapon [Shadow weaver]
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/21 18:27:04
"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:13:33
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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There are 2 things that I have seen consistently remove Windrider units from the table: Punishers & Dakkafexes/Tyrants. If you know that you will be facing these, why would you field so many bikes without support?
You also have nothing that can take out tanks turn 1 (D-cannon is only 24", swooping hawks are a long-shot). If you do indeed face the all mech Guard, the bikes cant hurt them (side AV13 on Russ tanks).
Don't get me wrong, I like your list, but I don't see how it can stand up to the 2 lists you mentioned you may be facing. I know it's only 1000pts, but you need a WraithKnight. I'd drop the Support batteries and Spiders (Autarch now on jetbike). I would also make 2 of the bike units into Shuricannon bikes, since they are actually better a killing T6+ models with a 2+/3+ save like Fexes ( and don't have to be as close as the Spiders.
Having a WK in 1000pts (with an Autarch) opens up a nice Alpha Strike playstyle. Almost no army list can kill a WK in cover Turn 1 (of even by turn 2). So if you face off against the Dakka Nid list, deploy the WK only and everything else in reserves. Now everything can come in where you want and avoid those Dakka MC's.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/21 18:22:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:20:04
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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So what you propose?
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:23:43
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I was editing my earlier post above, when you replied, Short Answer: WraihtKnight
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/21 18:24:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:26:52
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I fprgot the tournmaent doesnt allow SH/GC
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:28:39
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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OH.....well....hmmm.....
Dakka MC's? 3x Punishers? Mech IG? You actually want to win?
Don't play Eldar. I'm not even kidding, that is a hard match up
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/21 18:29:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:30:30
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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That doesnt really helps
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:38:49
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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You're original list as it stands should be fine against the Nids as long as you keep the bikes outside Dakka range and use the Spiders to vaporize the MC's. But it will stuggle against an AV14/13 tank list.
Sadly, Eldar have few "turn 1" anti-tank options. Sure they have TONS of "in your face" nuke a tank squadron options, but that won't help when you lose half your army before getting into that range.
Fire Prisms are an option, but they really require Guide/Prescience to be effective
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 18:49:42
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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In situationlike the 3 lemans i can put almost everything in reserve and let him come close or abuse his 24" range
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 19:01:03
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I keep forgetting that this is only 1000pts. If he 'only' has 3 Russes and no other tanks (or just Chimera), then you migh do fine.
You might do better with the Autarch having Hawk wings and drop him with the precision DS of the Hawks. 1 fusion gun + the exarch throwing a Haywire grenade, might be enough to kill a tank.
I forgot what the Faolcu's WIng does other than a 48" run or something like that, IF that is all it does, I'd drop it for the points to make the Shadow Weaver into another D-cannon.
And roll on the Strategic WL table. the 3 unit infiltrate can be invaluable at getting those D-cannons in a good spot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 19:17:46
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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those are my plans.
I want the Faolcu's WIng in the Autarch so i can keep him safe and ready any moment to be where i want him
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 21:06:39
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Crimson Hunters. With an Autarch you'll get beautiful reserve manipulation, the Crimson Hunters decimate FMCs and IG tanks both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 08:44:52
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I know but sadly i dont own one
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 17:07:32
Subject: Re:[1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Fresh-Faced New User
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If your expecting fmc,mc, and tanks I would think about reapers, these guys are amazing for almost everything, guns are two shots str 5 ap3 hits on 3+ without any gear or gimmicks, add starshot for str 8 ap3. and with 48" range you will out range those tyrants turn 1. And if your afraid you won't get turn one? Hide them they have slow and purposeful so hide and walk out for bottom of turn one death. I personally love reapers have always had a squad at 1000 and two above 1000 and they have never let me down, and I've played since 3rd. Now they are cheaper and better than ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/23 02:19:09
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I have a five man squad but i have never tried them. I will try them in my next practice match
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/23 15:49:03
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't think you need quite so many Jetbikes. A unit of Hornets with Pule Lasers or Warwalkers with Bright Lances would help a lot. A Farseer Skyrunner would be a better option than the Autarch in this list too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/23 18:51:03
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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So i playtest the list vs a 3 leman russ list, In the end of the 4 all tanks were destroyed.
So i belive i will run this list
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/23 19:03:20
Subject: Re:[1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Did you run it with any alterations or as posted?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/23 19:39:09
Subject: [1000] - Eldar - 1 cad eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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as posted.
I put everything in reserve exept the cannons and the autarch.
In turn two everything come in and i rain fire on the lemans asseis
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"Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."Leman Russ |
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