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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/26 17:06:16
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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I have a tournament coming up in a month. I have little time to paint so I'm trying to get this list finalised so I don't paint models that don't need it. Here's what I've come up with.
Combined Arms Detachment - Craftworld Eldar
HQ - Farseer, Jetbike, Singing Spear
HQ - Warlock, Jetbike
Troops - 3x Scatter Bikes
Troops - 3x Scatter Bikes
Elites - 5x Wraithguard with D-Scythes in a Wave Serpent with Holo Fields, Vectored Engines, TL Scatter Laser and Chin Shuriken Cannon
Lord of War - Weaithknight with Ghost Glaive and Scatter Shield, 2x Star Cannons.
Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment.
Knight Crusader, Melta gun, Rapid fire battle cannon
Knight Warden, Melta gun.
Total 1847.
The idea is to join the warlock to the Farseer to give him an bodyguard and a 2+ Jink Save. Likely be going for guide, Prescience and Psychic Shriek most games. May fish for invis on certain occasions, or look for doom/fortune/eldritch Storm on others. Originally I had a household detachment with an Errant instead of the Wraithguard, but although the knight is more survivable I feel the guard have a better damage output.
Thoughts please? Critisicms?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2016/01/26 17:08:17
You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/26 20:32:00
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Furious Fire Dragon
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You may struggle against horde based armies. However if your meta has few of these, you're quite elite and min-maxed.
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"We are all connected. To the Earth, Chemically. To each other, Biologically. And to the rest of the Universe, Atomically." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/26 21:56:06
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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To be honest, I'm not sure what to expect. May I ask why you think I'd struggle against hordes? the imperial knights are kicking out 24 str 6 shots, along with 2 strength 8 pie plates. The jet bikes are 24 strength 6 shots. All of these are at 36" range on mobile platforms. And then the D-Scythes are 5 templates that wound anything on a 3+. Perhaps I am missing something?? I'm genuinely intrigued.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/26 22:05:15
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I don't think you have to worry too much about Hordes, however you don't have enough bodies. 6 jetbikes will die FAST, especially if your opponent doesn't have much to deal with the Knights. Almost all the anti-infantry will be aimed at them.
Speaking form experience, even havin 36" guns and a 2d6" jump isn't enough to stay out of the enemies sights. I'd recommend trimming some points to get a 3rd jetbike unit in there. Personally, I think the Warlock is crap, but I like them in theory. If you aren't absolutely dead set on him, drop him and the WK Star cannons for another unit of Scatterbikes.
Even if you have to have the Warlock, I'd still drop the Star Cannons. You have plenty of AP2/3. Scatter Lasers would not only give you twice as many shots, but are cheaper
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/26 22:08:13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/26 22:10:55
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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This army would suffer quite heavily to an alpha strike list. Two grav pods on your wraithknights/ d scythes/ knights and an doubled assault from a skyhammer bum rush on your HQ squad effectively shuts this list down with a neat 630 ish points.
Assasults rush HQ/ tie up units
Gravs nuke Wraith/ Knight
And theres still 1200 pts for a gladius pod strike list. Meltas in pods will wreck this list. Id personally throw 2x melta pods or melta devs at the serpent, open it then Chapter master orbital bombardment you from space. Good bye d scythes.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/26 22:11:28
37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
10,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 07:15:58
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Yeah, I agree, Alpha strike list will really hurt me. I'll have to do my best with deployment and try and abuse as much cover as I can. That's about all I can do. That and hope I don't draw an alpha strike list!! I'm not sure what else I can do.
I've run the Jetbike portion of this list a lot, and they've never died that fast. Granted there'e they could die fast. I'm not denying that. Just that I haven't experienced it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 16:35:40
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Yup, its nasty. Dealing with garg creatures and titans is a pain. Now we have grav cent pods with skyhammers turn 1 face raping everyone.
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
10,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/28 06:02:22
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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I'm not familiar with sky hammers?
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/28 17:15:15
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Its a formation. Skyhammer Annihilation Force
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
10,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/28 17:27:59
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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The Skyhammer allows 2 Space Marrine assault squads and 2 Drop pods with Devastators drop in Turn 1. the Assault squads can Assault that turn and the Devs have relentless.
So anything on the board T1 is either dead or tied up. As an Eldar player, you should fear this Formation....I know I do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/29 06:50:07
Subject: [1850] - Eldar with Imperial Knight Allies - Upcoming tournament. Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Wow. I think there's a LOT of armies that should really fear that formation. That's horrific.
Mind you, as an eldar player I really can't complain about broken units or formations....
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