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So I bought a couple of the Get Started nurgle boxes. Sprues, glue and bits are everywhere and I'm thinking about the list I'd like to field.

Oh, yeah. First daemon army. I really have no idea what I'm doing. I sometimes get ahead of myself.

HQ - 530 pts

Daemon Prince - Daemonic flight, warp-forged armour, greater reward, lesser reward

Herald of Nurgle - ML2, greater reward, the FNP locus of fecundity

Herald of Nurgle - ML2, greater reward, the FNP locus of fecundity

Troops - 230 pts

Plaguebearers - Instrument of Chaos
Plagueridden - lesser reward

Plaguebearers - Instrument of Chaos
Plagueridden - lesser reward

Fast Attack - 372 points

Plague Drones of Nurgle - Icon, Death's Heads, Venom Sting
Plaguebringer - lesser reward

Plague Drones of Nurgle - Icon, Death's Heads, Venom Sting
Plaguebringer - lesser reward

Heavy Support - 360 points

Soul Grinder - Daemon of Nurgle, Phlegm Bombardment
Soul Grinder - Daemon of Nurgle, Phlegm Bombardment

I think I'd put the Heralds with the plaguebearers and keep them in reserve. Shoot up the board with the drones and use the Icons to deep strike right on target. Soul grinders would stay in the back and drop pie plates.

Here's what I'm concerned with:
-Too many points in the heralds? I'm not sure that I like my psykers in reserve either.
-Could swap the DP for a GUO or the named GUO character. With the Icons on the Plague drones you could DS him in a very nasty spot.
-Death head's on the drones? Points may be better spent elsewhere

i think you should put heralds in drones

Wouldn't that make you lose the drones speed?

that is not a problem if you learn how to move them they still move 12" but they become very durable and hard hitting anyone who play drones play heralds into them

I would probably scrap the greater rewards on the heralds and swap the daemon prince for a pimped out GUO, also you dont need to give your plaguebearers the icon of chaos, the drones are the only ones who need it, also the drones done need the instrument of chaos. If you make these changes you will have enough points to put 10 more plaguebearers with your heralds (so 15 bearers per squad) which should help maximise all the points you put in the heralds.

blackmage wrote:
that is not a problem if you learn how to move them they still move 12" but they become very durable and hard hitting anyone who play drones play heralds into them

Wow. That's good. So, you still get 12" in the movement phase. I didn't realize that.




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Reavas wrote:
I would probably scrap the greater rewards on the heralds and swap the daemon prince for a pimped out GUO, also you dont need to give your plaguebearers the icon of chaos, the drones are the only ones who need it, also the drones done need the instrument of chaos. If you make these changes you will have enough points to put 10 more plaguebearers with your heralds (so 15 bearers per squad) which should help maximise all the points you put in the heralds.

Yikes. I may have had that backwards. I was looking for the DS buff on the drones and the buff that lets you pick another reserve unit to drop to go with the plaguebearers. Probably had the names mixed up.

I like the idea of putting more plaguebearers with the heralds. What about a 20 man unit of plaguebearers with two heralds. One rolling on biomancy, the other rolling on malefic. The leftover points go towards some nurglings to infiltrate onto an objective. Thoughts?

Sounds good, just depends where your taking the points from, GUO is almost 80 points cheaper than a daemon prince and is VERY slow but brings the hurt when in combat. Also is a pretty damn good psycher

Agreed.

Flying DP really helps vs. flyers though.

The two soul grinders autocannons with skyfire might be enough to deter one flyer. But at 1500 pts that should be enough for games at the local shop.

Silly question. If you don't move the soul grinder, then can you drop the phlegm blast and skyfire on the same turn?

Not a clue, sorry

Finch wrote:

blackmage wrote:
that is not a problem if you learn how to move them they still move 12" but they become very durable and hard hitting anyone who play drones play heralds into them

Wow. That's good. So, you still get 12" in the movement phase. I didn't realize that.




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Reavas wrote:
I would probably scrap the greater rewards on the heralds and swap the daemon prince for a pimped out GUO, also you dont need to give your plaguebearers the icon of chaos, the drones are the only ones who need it, also the drones done need the instrument of chaos. If you make these changes you will have enough points to put 10 more plaguebearers with your heralds (so 15 bearers per squad) which should help maximise all the points you put in the heralds.

Yikes. I may have had that backwards. I was looking for the DS buff on the drones and the buff that lets you pick another reserve unit to drop to go with the plaguebearers. Probably had the names mixed up.

I like the idea of putting more plaguebearers with the heralds. What about a 20 man unit of plaguebearers with two heralds. One rolling on biomancy, the other rolling on malefic. The leftover points go towards some nurglings to infiltrate onto an objective. Thoughts?

you move the first drones 12" then move heralds 6" and fill the gap with the rest of drones so you can keep move 12" 2-3 turn most of time drones will ne in close combati anyway, the greaterbreward on herald is great you can give it the greater aeterblade to you have AP 2 attacks greated reward is great on drone champio with venom sting so you have a AP2 rerollabe instant death attack.


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Finch wrote:
Agreed.

Flying DP really helps vs. flyers though.

The two soul grinders autocannons with skyfire might be enough to deter one flyer. But at 1500 pts that should be enough for games at the local shop.

Silly question. If you don't move the soul grinder, then can you drop the phlegm blast and skyfire on the same turn?

if you fiire phlegm then you can fire the harvester cannon only snap shot but yes you can i never seen problems with that.

Leave the rewards on your unit champions and heralds. Take another greater gift on the prince (makes it more survivable) and more psyker levels (make the prince a psyker for biomancy on himself). A GUO will not be bad (for you), remember you can then take the prince as a heavy support choice.

Ok,

What about this:

HQ 475 pts
Be'lakor
Herald of Nurgle - ML2, greater reward, lesser reward

Troops 311 pts
Nurglings - minimum squad
Plaguebearers - 12 plaguebearers, plagueridden with greater reward
Plaguebearers - 12 plaguebearers, plagueridden with greater reward

Fast attack 352 pts
Plague Drones of nurgle - 6 plague drones, death's heads, venom sting, Icon of Chaos, plaguebringer with greater reward

Heavy support 360 pts
Soul Grinder - daemon of nurgle, phlegm bombardment
Soul Grinder - daemon of nurgle, phlegm bombardment

Be'lakor casts invisi on the drones. Herald goes with the drones. Invisi drones/herald knock off enemy troops off of objectives and help plaguebearers DS in to placehold. Soulgrinders support with their pie plates. Nurglings infiltrate, draw fire and die (hopefully after scoring an objective point). Be'lakor, swoops around and provides support, maybe pulls off puppet master on an enemy LOW, or puts dominate on a riptide. Put him on the ground to knock off troops late game.

Any better than the first list?

puppet master and dominate dont exist anymore in telepathy

You'll want the FNP Locus for thr herald I think. You can get 20 points if you make your plague ridden have lesser rewards, which is all they really need for thr AP2 sword. Maybe get rid of a plaguebearer too to get the rest.


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Use be'lakor for invis, shrouded bubble, and psychic shrieking things. Works pretty well.

yes be'lakor is a nice pice just need to be sneaky to survive enough, and locus is mandatory, best configuration is two heralds in plague drones rolling on byomancy.