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I fondly remember 4th and 5th Ed Chaos Monster Mash, or Khorne-Zilla as I (and others) called it.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/254025.page
(old army list thread)

But, in today's meta, can something like this work? What would it look like? Would I want to run a "Demons" or "Demonkin" primary rather than regular Chaos Space Marines? Or, is this really not as hard as I'm making it, and the answer is to run something like this?:

Demonkin Dual CAD

D-Thirster
D-Thirster
8x Bloodletters
8x Bloodletters
8x Bloodletters
8x Bloodletters
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
Soul Grinder
Soul Grinder
Soul Grinder
Kytan Demon Engine

I mean I know there are alot of possibilities, but the Monster Mash worked well back in the day because you mixed High Toughness/Armor Saves with Armor Value to mess up the enemy's target priority. There were alot less "Anti-Tank" back then though, and alot less Rate of Fire on High Strength weapons in general, so what works will obviously be a little different. Also, Demons back then couldn't start on the board and had to all deepstrike so the "Close Combat" nature of the list was delayed a little bit. Then you also had the "Preferred Wave" shenanigans and no additional reserve manipulation so you could really be in a pickle, but I'm open to suggestions.

Another idea using Dual CAD's for two Chaos Knights for an "AV13 wall"

D-Thirster
D-Thirster
8x Bloodletters
8x Bloodletters
8x Bloodletters
8x Bloodletters
Soul Grinder
Soul Grinder
Soul Grinder
Chaos Knight Errant of Khorne
Chaos Knight Paladin of Khorne

Am I mad?!?!!

So...in lieu of the release for Renegade Knights, does this change the concept any? For example, would 2x D-Thirsters and 3x Renegade Knights (CC versions) be enough of a threat to overwhelm anyone?

Also, since the Renegade Knights can't get BFTBG, I guess it doesn't really have to be a Khorne Demonkin army either right?

Thoughts?

This a monster mash I'm bringing this weekend. It's a pretty good one.
It saves you the problem form taking those bloodletters. Maulerfiends are also rather lackluster IMHO, and I prefer soul grinders.
The thing about a list like the one below is they are all fast moving, hard hitting units. Half of your army is not lagging behind.

Infernal Tetrad
···Daemon Prince of Khorne [Armour of Scorn, 2x Greater Reward, 1x Lesser Reward, Flight]
···Daemon Prince of Nurgle [2x Greater Reward, 1x Lesser Reward, Flight, ML 2]
···Daemon Prince of Slaanesh [2x Greater Reward, Flight, ML 2]
···Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [The Impossible Robe, 2x Greater Reward, 1x Lesser Reward, Flight, ML 2]

Chaos Renegade Knights Forsworn Knight Detachment
···Renegade Knight [Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike Gauntlet]
···Renegade Knight [Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike Gauntlet]

I like that army list alot, but I've been playing Khorne for so long I've forgotten how to....anything!

And you're totally right, the bloodletters are a waste in an army list this, and my walkers ALWAYS get immobilized. (And never by grav either...my luck is terrible).

I'd love to hear how it all went:

And for another goofy idea, is there any merit to running Belakor to give his shrouding bubble to several advancing Renegade Knights?

 whitedragon wrote:
I like that army list alot, but I've been playing Khorne for so long I've forgotten how to....anything!

And you're totally right, the bloodletters are a waste in an army list this, and my walkers ALWAYS get immobilized. (And never by grav either...my luck is terrible).

I'd love to hear how it all went:

And for another goofy idea, is there any merit to running Belakor to give his shrouding bubble to several advancing Renegade Knights?

At least the bloodletters would be Obsec in a double CAD. That's something.

Belakor is not good by himself. You don't get nearly enough psychic dice to make him reliable.

i did:

d-thrister

d-thirster

cultists

fateweaver

nurglings

2x renegade knights




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i really want to do a monster mash list that is not tau or tyranids or purely chaos daemons

 D6Damager wrote:


Belakor is not good by himself. You don't get nearly enough psychic dice to make him reliable.

Sure but his Armourbane makes him invaluable.

 -v10mega wrote:

i really want to do a monster mash list that is not tau or tyranids or purely chaos daemons

Grey Knights? Libby, Terminators, 2 Dreadknights, repeat until points are filled?

There is a dude at my shop who runs a GK/Eldar combo with a WK and 2 NDK, its pretty spooky.

Mechanicus get a formation that lets them Monster Mash better than anyone. 1 HQ, then big stompy robots as far as the eye can see.

 -v10mega wrote:

i really want to do a monster mash list that is not tau or tyranids or purely chaos daemons

nobody mentioned the Dark Eldar Corpsetheif Claw formation of five Talos Pain Engines.

A Craftworld Warhost with a small bike warhost and like 12 Wraithlords, with a couple guns? Or 11 Wraithlords with more guns/swords.

Either way, several tough MCs and LOTs of flamers

D6Damager wrote:

 whitedragon wrote:
I like that army list alot, but I've been playing Khorne for so long I've forgotten how to....anything!

And you're totally right, the bloodletters are a waste in an army list this, and my walkers ALWAYS get immobilized. (And never by grav either...my luck is terrible).

I'd love to hear how it all went:

And for another goofy idea, is there any merit to running Belakor to give his shrouding bubble to several advancing Renegade Knights?

At least the bloodletters would be Obsec in a double CAD. That's something.

Belakor is not good by himself. You don't get nearly enough psychic dice to make him reliable.

The idea was for Belakor to grant a shrouding bubble for the knights as they advance, but I'm not sure how good that would be. Something to counteract deep strikers trying to get past their Ion Shields I was thinking.

And as if by serendipity, I quoted you quoting me where I said my maulerfiends always get immobilized. Well, this week I played against a Tau player who's first shot of the game immobilized my 1st Maulerfiend. The 2nd Maulerfiend assaulted a Riptide, wiffed, and then the Riptide smashed and immobilized it in return. FML.

Badablack wrote:Mechanicus get a formation that lets them Monster Mash better than anyone. 1 HQ, then big stompy robots as far as the eye can see.

Which formation is that?

Goobi2 wrote:A Craftworld Warhost with a small bike warhost and like 12 Wraithlords, with a couple guns? Or 11 Wraithlords with more guns/swords.

Either way, several tough MCs and LOTs of flamers

This looks like a neat idea, gets people off of the whining about Wraithknights, but I feel like the Wraithlords are too slow to be able to do anything. They are also deceptively fragile for being T8 3W.

 whitedragon wrote:

Badablack wrote:Mechanicus get a formation that lets them Monster Mash better than anyone. 1 HQ, then big stompy robots as far as the eye can see.

Which formation is that?

Cohort Cybernetica. It's two units of Kastelan robots and a Tech Priest fielded together as one unit. Formation grants kind of Split Fire. It's about 790 points with phosphor blasters and a relic.

Are you familiar with the hellforged hunting pack? Its a daemonkin formation released at a Nottingham only supplement that is the ultimate khorne monster mash (Brass Scorpion and 8 khorne walkers or helldrakes). Its also fairly competitive although pretty RPS.

Google it you will find rules pretty easily

Will add I have seen it ran and it usually does 3-2 or 4-1 at events I have been at or ran. Comes down to if you can deal with that much AR13.