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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 03:56:20
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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Been playing a few scenarios with the starter army for Khorne and sigmar, with a few extra added units but not many, and I cant seem to hold my own. I do well when I have a totem dropped, but other than that it seems like the resilience of the sigmar is just insane. Hell in two combat turns I rolled close to 100 dice just to kill a squad of 5 guys with my warriors lol. Anyway, I know there has to be something im missing, some unit synergy or something. Also not to happy that my leader died to a 3 man squad of retributors, while only killing 1 and wounding another.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 04:58:58
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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Dangerous Skeleton Champion
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It sounds like you've been having some bad dice issues, and there's not much that can be done about it other than rolling through it until the law of averages swings things back in your favor.
That said, if you're mostly playing starter box stuff, yeah, it does seem to favor the Sigmarites, ime. I'd recommend branching out some. Maybe pick up that new chaos grand alliance book and proxying some of the various units available in it to see which ones you like playing with, mechanically.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 07:52:46
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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XvReaperXv wrote:Been playing a few scenarios with the starter army for Khorne and sigmar, with a few extra added units but not many, and I cant seem to hold my own. I do well when I have a totem dropped, but other than that it seems like the resilience of the sigmar is just insane. Hell in two combat turns I rolled close to 100 dice just to kill a squad of 5 guys with my warriors lol. Anyway, I know there has to be something im missing, some unit synergy or something. Also not to happy that my leader died to a 3 man squad of retributors, while only killing 1 and wounding another.
No offence intended, but are you understanding their rules properly?
Every time I've played them my Stormcast have had real bad times against the Blood warriors. They are horrific.
But yeah, chew up Retributors with reavers - they'll make a mess of elite stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 10:16:55
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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I would agree that it may be that you're not getting the best matchups. But Bloodbound require synergies to make them great while stormcast really dont. A high synergy army is a bit harder to keep everything where you need, a low synergy can be all over.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 14:15:17
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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RockPriestRoller wrote:I would agree that it may be that you're not getting the best matchups. But Bloodbound require synergies to make them great while stormcast really dont. A high synergy army is a bit harder to keep everything where you need, a low synergy can be all over.
Funny, when we play 40k I play chaos and she plays eldar...... I really gotta stop picking the bad guys apparently. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, 2 quick questions. Do Khorne have access to any range? And for scenarios, do you guys follow the model count rules? it seems like I will always have more models then her sigmar army, even though it seems she is more effective. thus putting me at a disadvantage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 15:42:14
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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I find things have to go fairly right for the starter set Bloodbound for them to work. Bloodreavers are very weak unless buffed by the Bloodsecrator, and only 5 Bloodwarriors doesn't make for a very impactful unit. A good addition I've found is Khorne Daemons, who can also get buffed by the Bloodsecrator and can dish out mortal wounds on those Stormcast.
The Skullcannon is one ranged option with Khorne. If you got the Start Collecting box, you can build a Skullcannon instead of the Blood Throne and make a Herald on foot too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 16:28:19
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Yes, the starter box is a good option, but I believe that getting some of your own more "elite" units could swing things your way. The Wrathmongers and their counterparts (forgot what they're called) give you some more beefy units which are also pack quite a punch.
As said before, Daemons do very well against the Stormcast, especially simple Bloodletters. Their -1 rend really goes to work on Liberators (since their shields are negated) and even Retributors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 16:46:03
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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A couple of good additions to Khorne Bloodbound:
-2x Skull Cannons
-Wraithmongers for killing big monsters (or having them kill themselves)
-Slaughter Priest
-Warshrine since it gives your army mortals a ward save
-Aspiring Deathbringer
Next
-skarbrand
-a unit of 30 Bloodletters which are insanely good in mass (do mortal wounds on a 5+ to hit and have 2+ attacks when near a portal of skulls)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 16:47:02
Subject: Re:What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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Thanks for the tips guys, another question, which units are wizards? I think i could have some fun summoning units but im having a hard time finding chaos wizards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 16:49:59
Subject: Re:What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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XvReaperXv wrote:Thanks for the tips guys, another question, which units are wizards? I think i could have some fun summoning units but im having a hard time finding chaos wizards.
Well true Khorne has no wizards slaughter priests are as close as it gets. Your only real option is Be' lakor or a normal non Khorne Wizard. You can also get a wizard firm another chaos God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 20:31:55
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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Repentia Mistress
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XvReaperXv wrote:RockPriestRoller wrote:I would agree that it may be that you're not getting the best matchups. But Bloodbound require synergies to make them great while stormcast really dont. A high synergy army is a bit harder to keep everything where you need, a low synergy can be all over.
Funny, when we play 40k I play chaos and she plays eldar...... I really gotta stop picking the bad guys apparently.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, 2 quick questions. Do Khorne have access to any range? And for scenarios, do you guys follow the model count rules? it seems like I will always have more models then her sigmar army, even though it seems she is more effective. thus putting me at a disadvantage.
I always play scenarios (but not the starter ones). And those have different victories conditions then 'just smash them'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/03 23:09:58
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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ShaneTB wrote:XvReaperXv wrote:RockPriestRoller wrote:I would agree that it may be that you're not getting the best matchups. But Bloodbound require synergies to make them great while stormcast really dont. A high synergy army is a bit harder to keep everything where you need, a low synergy can be all over.
Funny, when we play 40k I play chaos and she plays eldar...... I really gotta stop picking the bad guys apparently.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, 2 quick questions. Do Khorne have access to any range? And for scenarios, do you guys follow the model count rules? it seems like I will always have more models then her sigmar army, even though it seems she is more effective. thus putting me at a disadvantage.
I always play scenarios (but not the starter ones). And those have different victories conditions then 'just smash them'.
Playing the ritual scenario, 1st time I lost quickly as the attacker, gonna try again tonight!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/04 00:09:06
Subject: What am I missing with Khorne Bloodborne?
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Repentia Mistress
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Deployment is key with that scenario. No stalling. All the best!
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