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So, I've fallen for a tank list, but I've already bought 2 squads of veterans and want to use them. So here's some lists I want to work towards:

1000:

Steel host:
Pask, Punisher, MMS, LC 240
-Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Exterminator, MMS, LC 160
Exterminator, MMS, LC 160
Hydra 70

1500:

IG CAD
CCS, Chimera, 2 plasma 155
Veterans, Chimera, 2 plasma 155
Veterans, 2 melta, heavy flamer 155
Techpriest 35

Steel host:
Pask, Punisher, MMS, LC 240
-Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Exterminator, MMS, LC 160
Exterminator, MMS, LC 160
Hydra 70

1850:

CAD:
CCS, Chimera, 2 plasma 155
Veterans, Chimera, 2 plasma 155
Veterans, 2 melta, heavy flamer 155
Wyvern 65
Wyvern 65
Techpriest 35

Steel host:
Pask, Punisher, MMS, LC 240
-Exterminator, MMS, LC 160
Exterminator, MMS, LC 160
Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Executioner, PC sponsons 185
Hydra 70
35 spare.

All 3 lists look good for a steel host list.

Here is some feedback:
-Consider adding some dozer blades for your more mobile tanks (chimeras and punisher). You could drop a set of sponsons to pay for them in the 1st list, drop the enginseeer in your 2nd list to pay for them, and your 3rd list already has points to spare.
-Consider trying to find the points in your 1500 pt. list to add a wyvern.
-Your 1850 pt. list features 3 executioners. This might be a bit overkill, depending on your meta. You might be better served by dropping 1 executioner and tossing in a 3rd mechvet squad to grab midfield objectives.

Tallarn Commander

Glad to hear I'm on the right track(s)... (that was a terrible tank-related pun).

I'll probably go for another 2 Wvyerns, or another melta mech vet squad for the 1850 list.

 trephines wrote:
Glad to hear I'm on the right track(s)... (that was a terrible tank-related pun).

I'll probably go for another 2 Wvyerns, or another melta mech vet squad for the 1850 list.

I would go for more infantry. From personal experience guard needs mobility to grab objectives and you need more bodies to act and shields for the russes. If the enemy can drop hay wire or melta right next to your russes they are as good as dead. If they aren't blown up there's a good chance they will be shaken and since you have a lot of blast russes if you get shaken then you aren't firing and you will be less of a threat.

Also with how easy it is to destroy vehicles if your opponent destroyers your tank commander you lose your preferred enemy bubble. If that is lost then your executioners will kill themselves by the end of the game. A little too many eggs in 1 basket if you ask me.

Have you seen the emperors fist tank company? Unless you're sold on the executioners and those are the models you have I would consider the tank company much better than the steel host. It's bonuses are much better and you won't destroy your own units if you lose your tank commander.

What infantry would you suggest then, a platoon? How'd you run it?

The emperors fist requires too many Leman Russ's and isn't as well suited to Executioners of course, which I am kinda set on.

You can take Kurov's Aquilla on a command squad from your CAD to put out a 6" PE bubble, making the plasma tanks better. Since you're already running the engineseer, the emperor's fist is cheaper than running the steel host since it's 60 vs the 70 for the hydra. Emperor's fist needs 5 russes. You already have 6.

Command and vets don't need plasma since you have all those plasma tanks. I'd focus on anti-infantry or anti-tank since you are light on both.

If you drop pask down to a normal tank commander, you have enough points to buy either a thunderer siege tank or an eradicator.

Platoon is good. Veteran squads with forward sentries and 3 flamers is also solid. Even better if you can get some telepathy either from a conclave or astropath.

As Ether said the emperors fist tank company only requires 5 russes and an enginseer. Tank commanders squad is minimum 2 and 1 Russ in each of the 3 Russ squadrons.

It's the formation from the new montka campaign not the apoc book. They are called the same but the montka one is better.

All russes within 12" of tank commander gain bs4 so blasts scatter slightly less, straight shot weapons, all hull and sponson weapons now become more accurate and hit more.

The tank company also gets bonuses to their ram and tank shocks if you have multiple russes in a squadron.

If the enginseer is within 6" of any Russ from the formation and the enemy pens one of those russes he has to roll 2d6 on the vehicle damage table and take the lowest result of the two. Essentially it's now harder to outright destroy a Russ and forces your opponent to strip every hull point to wreck a Russ. The enginseer is then there to repair the damage done to the russes.

As Ether also said take a CAD and have your company commander take kurovs Aquila. Preferred enemy within 6". Throw him in a chimera so it's a bigger radius and now you have russes that hit more, rerolls 1's to hit and to wound, and are harder to kill.

As for troops you can stick with mech vets in chimeras. Go 3 plasma or melta. Whatever your tanks are doing have your infantry cover the opposite. So if you stick with the executioners then go with melta vets. But if you do other russes then go with plasma vets.

If you go with blob guard kit them out how you want them to be. Make sure you have a priest or commissar to hold them together. Have heavy weapon teams if you plan on sitting back and shooting or if you want them moving forward kit them out with some melta bombs and power axes on the sergeants. Maybe give them a couple special weapons.