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Greetings!

I have been sucked into world of the Horus Heresy and now I want to join the fray. After taking a quick look at the Forgeworld model range, I found myself quickly admiring the Siege Breacher squads. Mainly this:

Taken from A Galaxy in Flames blog

With the Imperial Fists rite of war to give +1 toughness for shield wielding units, I would assume they are the ideal legion for the breacher squads.

I'm trying to plan what models to buy from forgeworld but some advice from the more experience would be nice.

I know I want to get the:
MKIII Tactical Squad set
Boarding Assault upgrade

Which will give me 30 marines with boarding shields. But I have some questions:
-Which rule book do I need? My friend has the fluff books, but I just want the core rules.
-What special weapons should I get?
-How to I build the HQ unit? Praeto I believe?
-What other models should I be considering?

Cheers

Thanks for the pointers!

I do like the look of the larger boarding shields, but my wallet is having second thoughts.

Graviton guns sound cool, but with so much power armour running around are they worth the cost?

Took a look at the IF warders and I'm not sure what they offer compared to the breachers. Seems like access to power axes and +1 initiative if they get charged. But that's about it.

That's a good idea, I might try to make the whole army go for a templar theme.

Sitting on the fence with Cataphractii terminators though. Stormshields will make them super tough to kill, but if I use that rite of war they can't deepstrike anymore. Therefore they need a transport, but all the land raider variants don't appeal to me.

And Imperial fists are awesome as they open up storm shields and deepstrike, but only if I use a generic rite of war.

Will super tough footslogging terminators be useful? Or just a waste?

Just checking, but does the +1 toughness from having 3 models in coherency with shields only apply to those models. So the whole unit will not benefit.

Therefore if I wanted the whole unit to benefit, I need at least 50% of the models to have shields?

 Rotary wrote:
I'm interested in this thread. I just started a imperial fists army for 30k as well using a calth box, breachers, and castellum. What shields are you guys using on the termies? I can only find the black templar ones on forge world.

Been looking around for alternate shields, or at least something different for sergeants and Praetors. This is what I'm planning to use.

 Formosa wrote:

51% yeah, for majority toughness, command squads can take combat Shields so also get the buff, the +1 I has been changed to +1 WS As well, so WS 6 command squads are a thing, plop them on bikes or jetbikes and you have T6, pretty nasty.

Dayum! That sounds like a beastly squad! Even though I feel bikes don't fit the Imperial Fists too well, I still want to try it out!

 JamesY wrote:
Ey up taemu, I had my first 30k game in the week with crimson fists (obviously using imperial fist rules). I really enjoyed it and they performed really well. Bs and t5 made them a really difficult force to shift. Having to have two breacher squads is painful on the wallet though, by coincidence (I was completely unaware of rites of war and limitations until the game) I already have one 10 man squad. Having to spend £68 for a second unit I hadn't intended buying for future games is a bit of a pain though.

When you have a 1k or 1.5k list give me a shout, we are long overdue for another game.

Hi!

Here is a 1.5k list which I think fully embodies the shield theme I like. The rapier weapon batteries and heavy support squad provide cover fire, while the rest of the troops move up the field and hopefully never die.

HQ
Praetor -Rite of war: Stone Gauntlet
-Cataphractii Terminator Armour
-Paragon Blade
-Stormshield
-Digital Lasers

Troops
15 man, Breacher Siege Squad
-Sergeant with artificer armour and power fist
-3 Graviton guns
-Legion Vexilla

15 man, Breacher Siege Squad
-Sergeant with artificer armour and power fist
-3 Graviton guns
-Legion Vexilla

Elites
5 man Cataphractii Terminator Squad
-Sergeant with stormshield and power fist
-1 with assault cannon and power axe
-3 with stormshields and power axes

2, Rapier Weapons Batteries
-Both swap to Laser Destroyer Weapons

Heavy Support
8 man, Heavy Support Squad
-Autocannons


Current debating with myself about the lack of normal tactical marines. The fury of the legion combined with the +1 BS is such a devastating attack. But if I include them, with the Breacher squad tax, that's a whole lot of bolters which might cause issues if I am faced with vehicle heavy lists.

 CalgarsPimpHand wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't storm shields make Cataphractii armor unnecessary? I mean the only reason to take it, aside from aesthetics, is the invulnerable save. You could take Tartarus and a storm shield, have a 3++, and be able to run and sweeping advance. Am I missing something?

Taking the stormshields with Caraphractii armour is slightly cheaper than with Tartaros armour. Other than that, it's just cool points.