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Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

For future information on qualification/becoming a part of Team America, Sean Nayden, the new Captain for 2018, will have more details in the coming months as he decides the best way to select the team on his path to glory

Qualification to the American 40k ETC Team
In order to qualify for a spot on the 40k America ETC Team, you will need to know a bit about the Qualification Circuit. The Qualification Circuit I have designed is an attempt to be as unbiased and fair as possible to all participants - the true goal of the system is to ensure that the Captain, myself, has a tool to determine which competitive players across the country are currently the sharpest, and most qualified for the team. The other goal is to make sure anyone can qualify, regardless of their personal connections or affiliations, in order to grow the awareness of the ETC within the US Tournament Community and as such, improve the strength of our team over time. This system is, as with anything in life, a work in progress. All feedback can be addressed to me here or via pm - for lengthier discussions I may ask you to take it offline in order to keep the thread clean.

Team Composition: At the ETC a team is composed of eight players and up to one non-playing coach. Only U.S. Citizens are valid for qualification - we have plenty of people interested and can and should always field a national team. I fill those eight spots in the following way:

1) The Current ETC Team Captain
2) #1 in Qualification Circuit
3) #2 in Qualification Circuit
4) #3 in Qualification Circuit
5) #4 in Qualification Circuit
6) #5 in Qualification Circuit
7) Team Vote Involving Members 1-6 above
8) Team Vote Involving Members 1-6 above

**Captains Choice** Unfortunately some years not everyone who qualified is able to attend, the captain ranks in the top 5 of the qualification circuit, or people have to drop out near the event due to events in real life. In the event this happens the spot is filled via a Captain's Choice, which involves the Captain picking the player they feel is best qualified to round out the team and give us the best shot at winning.

Qualification Circuit Information (Places 2-6)
Qualification Circuit Duration: The Qualification Circuit will run the length of the calendar year. Events will be used that occur from January 1st -> December 31st of a given year to qualify the team that will attend the ETC in the following August. For example, the team that just qualified based on the results of all qualifying tournaments occurring in 2015 will attend the event in August of 2016. This is to allow the team time to work together, design a strategy, build lists, and practice prior to the list submission deadline which typically takes place in June.

Qualification Circuit - Event Criteria
-> The event must be open to all players to attend (no invite only events)
-> The event must have at least 50 players playing games at round 1
-> The event must have at least 5 rounds occur
-> The event must use a competitive rules set. This is a qualitative assessment done by myself. To date no event has ever been disqualified or not used, however I reserve the right to not allow in a 50 person '4000 points per person apocalypse event. Or a "everyone gets wraithknights in game 2" event. While these sort of events may be fun, they do not serve as an adequate proving ground for a player to show they would be able to succeed at the ETC.
-> Both Singles and Team Events are allowed
-> The event must provide me with the *full* results via email (pm me for contact info) or via PM on dakka, or right here in the thread. Only the competitive scoring track is used for rankings in this system, and it should be sorted based on the method used for pairings. IE, if the event pairs based on W/L, the Top 4 of the event for purposes of points in this system should be the final 4 players. If the event uses BP to pair, then the top 4 BP players will be used.

Qualification Circuit - How Points are Earned: Points are earned via placing at any GT in the U.S. that meets the above criteria - it's that simple. I'll have a google sheet at the end of this post which does all the computations, and I'll update it periodically and provide view-only access to everyone.

The following formula is used to determine the points a player will receive at an event: [1/(Event Placing^0.66)*Sqrt(Event Attendance/50)]

Additional Team Event Details:
-> In the case of Team Events, event "attendance" in my spreadsheet is always capped at 256, and divided by two for team events. This means that for the majority of team events their "size" in the formula will be 128. This is to prevent team events from dominating the scoring.
-> Team Event points are initially in a locked state, and do not count towards qualifying a player. In order to unlock these points, a player must have a qualifying singles finish. This is to prevent any accidental qualifiers due to the same team winning multiple team events in a year and carrying an inexperienced player on to the team.

How you can lose points: In general, points cannot be lost. However in unusual circumstances I will need to remove points from players. Through honest mistakes or illegal play, if it is brought to my attention and confirmed beyond my own reasonable doubt that the player in question cheated and it was not handled at the table/event, had an illegal list, colluded, or anything else of this nature, I will remove the points for an individuals finish. I want to emphasize that mistakes do happen, and I understand that. Everyone has had something small from time to time such as an illegal list occur - and that's fine - but at the ETC the entire team could experience a round loss due to one illegal list. This could invalidate the entire trip before it begins, and is not something we can risk. For an example, you can see circumstances of some of the top players, stand up guys, having illegal lists occasionally over the years due to miscounting, army building software, any number of reasons. While I am Captain, if this circumstance arises, I will remove qualifying points for these circumstances.

Think of it like a track meet - if you jump the starting gun, it doesn't matter if you won the race by three lengths - you were not a legal participant.

Team Vote Process (Places 7-8)
Currently the ETC format requires each faction to be used only once per team. As such, all eight players must play eight distinctly different armies. This can create an issue when the bulk of the team is created by a qualification system based around winning events, as certain armies at any one time will be more powerful than others, and as such more widely played. In order to ensure there is some flexibility in team creation, we have the team vote process. After the qualification circuit ends, I will contact the top five individuals and award them their spot on the team. Whether they accept or not, these are the voting members, alongside the Captain, who choose the last two members of the team in the following way:

Captain: Nominates three individuals
Players 2-6: Nominate one individual each with a justification statement

These 3-8 names make up the ballot, with overlapping names discarded. From here, each player is requested to submit their top 3 picks from the name on the ballot ranked 1, 2, and 3. These votes are taken in, and for each time a player is ranked first they get 3 points, 2nd 2 points, and 3rd one point. After totaling these, the two players with the most points are awarded the last two spots on the team. If one refuses, their spot is offered to the third player. In the case of two players being unable to accept, it will revert to a Captain's Choice.

2017 Calendar Year Qualification Results and Team Announcement
Link to the finalized qualification spreadsheet for the 2017 Team: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O6Nk8Gg0S6xjZNNOkO3Zd3CkHgHAhRoKAJVF4DD0Xhk/edit?usp=sharing

***There will be a new captain for 2018, so the qualification circuit is in limbo while the new captain (yet unannounced) decides how they want to handle team selection***

Team America 2017
1) (Captain's Choice) - Brad Chester - (Accepted)
2) #1 in Qualification Circuit - Matt Root (Accepted)
3) #2 in Qualification Circuit - Andrew Gonyo (Accepted, Captain, created captains choice)
4) #3 in Qualification Circuit - Sean Nayden (Accepted)
5) #4 in Qualification Circuit - Tyler Devries (Accepted)
6) #5 in Qualification Circuit - Brett Perkins (Accepted)
7) Team Vote Involving Members 1-6 above - Matt Schuchman - (Accepted)
8) Team Vote Involving Members 1-6 above - Brad Townsend - (Accepted)
Coach: Kurt Clauss - (Accepted)

ETC Team America 40k History
Expand the spoiler tag to see who was on the team each year since we started attending, and how the team placed.
Spoiler:


Team America 2016 - Event Placing: 10th
Player 1: Andrew Gonyo - Team Captain
Player 2: Nick Nanavati
Player 3: Tyler Devries
Player 4: Aaron Aleong
Player 5: Justin Curtis
Player 6: Brad Chester
Player 7: Kurt Clauss
Player 8: Alex Fennel
Coach: Brad Townsend

Team America 2015 - Event Placing: 9th
Player 1: Andrew Gonyo - Team Captain
Player 2: Nick Nanavati
Player 3: Tony Kopach
Player 4: Sean Nayden
Player 5: Kurt Clauss
Player 6: Brad Chester
Player 7: Aaron Aleong
Player 8: Eric Hoerger
Coach: Greg Sparks

Team America 2014 - Event Placing: 4th
Player 1: Greg Sparks - Team Captain
Player 2: Alan Bajramovic
Player 3: Andrew Gonyo
Player 4: Nick Nanavati
Player 5: Tony Kopach
Player 6: Brad Chester
Player 7: Ben Mohlie
Player 8: Justin Cook
Coach: Ben Cromwell

Team America 2013 - Event Placing: 10th
Player 1: Greg Sparks - Team Captain
Player 2: Alan Bajramovic
Player 3: Andrew Gonyo
Player 4: Nick Nanavati
Player 5: Tony Kopach
Player 6: Brad Chester
Player 7: Ben Cromwell
Player 8: Jon Willingham
Coach: Mitch tucker

Team America 2012 - Event Placing: 19th
Player 1: Greg Sparks - Team Captain
Player 2: Mike Mutscheller
Player 3: Alan Bajramovic
Player 4: Alex Fennel
Player 5: Jon Willingham
Player 6: Joe Cherry
Player 7: Brad Chester
Player 8: Tony Kopach
Coach: Shaun Kemp

Team America 2011 - Event Placing: 3rd
Player 1: Ben Mohlie - Team Captain
Player 2: Greg Sparks
Player 3: Jon Willingham
Player 4: Paul Miglino
Player 5: Shaun Kemp
Player 6: Nick Rose
Player 7: Tony Kopach
Player 8: Jay Woodcock
Coach: Alicia Ling

Team America 2010 - Event Placing: 5th
Player 1: Ben Mohlie - Team Captain
Player 2: Greg Sparks
Player 3: Jon Willingham
Player 4: Wyatt Traina
Player 5: Shaun Kemp
Player 6: Nick Rose
Player 7: Tony Kopach
Player 8: Paul Miglino
Coach: Alicia Ling


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Made in us
[MOD]
Friendly Peat Beast






The Great Marsh

I've got this stickied, be sure to post in the discussion thread when it's updated so people know when to check it! Edit: and now it's updated

Should be very useful to have this here for people to see the rules, standings and know how to report events. Cheers for doing this!

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[MOD]
Friendly Peat Beast






The Great Marsh

Thanks for getting this updated, Target! You might want to put a link in your sig so folks know where to check easily . It's awesome to have this all available upfront so folks know how to best increase their chances of qualifying for 2017 (other than, you know, winning stuff )
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

I've started up this years sheet, and so far I have LVO, Adepticon, and Adepticon Team Tournament entered. If you have any results from other events that meet the criteria, please let me know and/or post them here.

Thanks,

Andrew
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

Added Flying Monkey GT, Congrats to all the guys who attended!
   
Made in us
Beast of Nurgle





East Bay

Missed getting ranked by... that much. haha

   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

Just inputted the results from Storm of Silence and Broadside Bash
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

Midwest Conquest Results Added!

Keep in mind per the way the qualification system works (see the above description) in events that pair win/loss we rank by win loss, essentially meaning the players that make the final four are the points earners. The top 4 for our purposes are:

Tyler Devries
Trent Northington
Brad Townsend
Matt Root

This comes up from time to time, such as with NOVA and other events that pair win/loss yet still utilize BP as a tiebreaker/sometimes in rankings for general.

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Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

Just added in Bugeater GT

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Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




Minneapolis MN

The Renegade Open should meet the qualifications for the American ETC team.


www.renegadeopen.com

Good luck to our players, especially the ones from the Frozen North Gaming Club!

~ Puck

Check us out at www.renegadeopen.com, or email at info@renegadeopen.com

We are also a MAJOR ITC Event! 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Friendly Peat Beast






The Great Marsh

2016 ETC results are here, I believe:

http://tourneykeeper.net/Team/TKTeamLeaderboard.aspx?Id=257

Target, do you want to make a new thread for 2017, or continue this one, track it elsewhere, etc? Totally up to you, just let me know!
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

I'll continue using this one, and will be adding the team shortly for 2017. Thanks for the reminder!
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator




Falls Church, VA

ETC 2017 is over and it was another tough road with great opponents. Team America ended up facing off against (in order), Romania, Denmark, France, England, Wales, and Germany, and I can't thank all of the guys (Kurt Clauss, Brad Townsend, Brad Chester, Tyler Moose DeVries, Matt Schuchman, Matt Gorknmork, Nick Brown, Sean Nayden) that joined me overseas this year enough for the blood, sweat, and tears they put in, or our opponents for being such tough, sporting gents.

So, as many already knew, this was my last year as Captain - I've decided to pass the torch to get some fresh perspectives and leadership into Team America, as I said when Greg Sparks asked me to take on this journey, I didn't feel any Captain should stick around more then two or three years - we have too big of a community for one person to hold it for very long.

The next Captain of Team USA is Sean Nayden, a guy that needs no introduction from his performances at LVO, ATC, ETC, and many others. I look forward to seeing the direction he takes the team in, and want to thank everyone I've met over the years at ETC and all the US events and gotten to share this awesome hobby with. It's been a truly amazing five years of my life

For future information on qualification/becoming a part of Team America, Sean will have more details in the coming months as he decides the best way to select the team on his path to glory
   
Made in us
Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider



CT

Hello all this is your Captain speaking.

This year for the team I am requesting that interested parties email me at: church of vect at gmail . Com

Please include:

Your name (a real one preferably)
Why you want to be on the team (23 words or less)
What sets you apart (don't mention 40k here)
What kinds of skills you would bring to the team dynamic (50/50 mentioning of 40k)
What armies and events have you had the most success with/at (ok this one is about 40k)
What is your favorite colour (blue... no ahhhhh)
List the 5 players other than yourself that you believe are the best. ( first and last names probably help)
Who is the most successful Disney animated villain and why?(83 word minimum. )
Best place to contact you

I will endevour to respond to each email I receive to at the least alert you to my receiving it. Particularly entertaining applications always appreciated. Applications that are more than 700 words will not be read. Also I'll probably be using all the Aelderi brethren so if you play any of those good luck and the odds are not in your favor.

At some point I will invite people onto the team and at some point after that I will announce said team. And then with any luck we will win the event.

- Sean Nayden

 
   
 
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