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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 07:06:18
Subject: [1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm listing this as squads, naming main vehicle options, obviously we grab all options.
Runepriest
5x BC: one has Powerfist
Razorback: LasPlas
Runepriest
5x BC: one has Powerfist
Razorback: LasPlas
5x Wulfen: 5x Great Frost Axe, 5x Stormfrag Grenadelaunchers
WGBL: SS & Wolfclaw
Stormwolf: Multimelta
Speeder: Typhoon & MultiMelta (if Assault Cannon is better, Pls say so)
Speeder: Typhoon & MultiMelta
1x Longfangs: Plasma Cannon
Ancient
Razorback: LasPlas
Sky Landing Pad: Ready to Fly
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Launch potential turn 1 CC w/ Wulfen, by letting them go first.
Razorbacks can do 24" if it's right, or just shoot their way through. If they're popped, BC's will be able to make CC their turn, since rules state only on -our- assault phase we can't charge, on theirs we can - and wulfen should be in. (Minor thing, not amazing or anything).
Longfangs and speeders can chill on SkyPad enjoying the 4+ invulnerable, the speeders able to move where they'd need later game.
What we need is a way to ObjSec, and also to make the list more competitive.
Any suggestions?
thank you so much for the time - been working hard on this
All other formations seem SO expensive in pts. Meh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 12:47:51
Subject: Re:[1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Imho, why you are not taking TWCs? They are the great in combat as well, and while running alongside your Wulfen you will probably have the best assault army in 40k. No one short of a WK could survive your charge from either of these two unit.
Your land speeders don't need MM, especially when you just plan to sit them on the landing pad, take some TH/SS on your Wulfen and TWC (if you take them as well), and you may not need to worry about AV14.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/17 12:52:09
Subject: [1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The speeders are 50pts, and the multi-melta is FREE with Iron Wolves formation from the new Wulfen book - all wargear and weapons options on the vehicles are free (so everything has the Hunter-Killer, Dozer blades, Stormbolter, Extra Armour - and all the weapons are free).
I agree, TWC ROCK. As do Iron Priests on TWC.
Is that your recommendation, for running this list to 1850 - to load up on TWC? Automatically Appended Next Post: For the Iron Wolves formation, it's required to take either two Grey Hunters squads and/or Two Speeder squadrons.
In addition to the 2-3 Bloodclaws that are required.
this is a 1250 -start-, honestly the first actual list I've been able to create off the new Book. The formations in there typically BEGIN at 1500+, without any options/weapons... so this being 1250 is kinda impressive to me.
Hoping people may comment on where to go from here. (as you have, thank you).
Skypad gives wulfen first turn assault, and reliably anti-flyer stormwolf.
Also provides 4+ for the speeders so they don't have to jink, and they can at any point move 42" on the battlefield due to the additional 6" gained from the formation for flat out (56" total in a single move, since deployment is 12" then an additional 12" via next turn movement: 68", pretty much anywhere).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 02:36:12
Subject: Re:[1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Georgia
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If you're looking to add TWC to the list, I recommend the new SW Deathpack. TWC that can run and assault with fleet is really good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 11:22:37
Subject: [1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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yeah, Deathpack aint half bad...
Didn't know it existed, thank you.
Having the Wolf Lord -in- the Deathpack's TWC unit still works, right?
I enjoy using a Drop Pod w/ a Plasma Rifle, a Combi-Plasma Pack Leader, and a Plasma Pistol... may go 10-man for the 2nd Plasma Rifle, that we get reroll 1's on it. 1 unit seems to be all I really need, for that. Too bad it doesn't get Objectives Secured =P Automatically Appended Next Post: Having the Deathpack's Run + Charge, to go with Wulfens Run + Charge out of the Flyer, makes two solid units to reach CC.
I do like them odds, for causing the Counter-Charge to go off the first turn in the game =)
I also found a cool lil thing, with having IP's join Scout Squads, granting them scout... it lets them scout-move 12", then normal move 12" (leaving scouts behind), then run d6" - to then move 12" on turn 2, and charge... 51"+ of table is covered, aint no-where to hide haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 11:42:20
Subject: Re:[1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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how do you get the wulfen in the ironwolves formation? unbound??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/18 13:04:52
Subject: [1250] - Space Wolves - 1250 IronWolves & Stormfang + Wyrdstorm; pls critique and help this to 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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haha you're so right!
yeah, it'd be unbound.
The only disadvantage for going unbound, would be unable to play in tourneys (1250 wouldn't anyways) and the inability to reroll warlord table (oh well lol).
I do prefer to play 'within bounds', so taking this to 1500 or 1850 I'd want to include them in that detachment.
The Wulfen formation requires 2 units, I only have models for 1... and also really don't see having 2 units as worth it. I'd rather go TWC or something else =P 1 is soooo enough imo
so: consensus is, go TWC-SuperFriends, right? Automatically Appended Next Post: i don't know if i'd wanna go without ObjSec, either... and I don't know how I'd trim the points down any further...
The New Detachment:
- Iron Wolves
- StormWolf
also:
-Wyrdstorm Brotherhood
& Wulfen
& Skyshield Landing Pad
'Spose I could pull the Pad, +80pts
'Spose I could pull Wulfen, +200pts
That'd make it 1,000 pts - 850 to go... that may fit CAD & TWC, but i'd definitely miss the Wulfen, and the Stormwolf great as it is just isn't the same without a MEAN assault squad to fall out of it.
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