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I purchased some nids a while ago and has fun converting them, bought some gretchin with a runtherd( yes that needed a small amount if gluing) and lately purchased some spacemarines. Why is there not more snapfit boxes. Some people are not that good at assembling. I like converting stuff so snapfit is a nice challenge. Just a thought that popped in my head. Yes we would all like awesome detailed models, but some people bugger most of it up just by assembling alone. ?

Gw are realising more snap fit stuff soon (tm), basically the old aobr set. The problem with snap fit comes about when you have a lot of them, they take a lot of work to differentiate, and can end up looking too much the same.

Hey kb! Im thinking more in the line of snapfit units that usually would dicourage some players to buy like teeminators and such , where there is alot of gluing involved, yes the detail wont be the same but it just might help the dude to try harder, seeing his model next to another that is more intricate, lots of people i know are startled by rhe fact that you have to paint simething so small...but once they realise thT something like a raptor consists if 10 to 15 parts that you firstly have to glue, well then the conversation turns to the topic of insanity.

snapfit is fine for basic models like the chaos cultists. but the fact is that the fewer pieces you have, the more detail you lose and convertibility is often lost or hampered. as someone who lives for kitbashing i personally prefer kits that have as much flexibility as possible.

Snapfit models have major problems for sprue-cutting, cuz sprue molds are always 2-piece ones and for snap-fit models there's really only two ways to go about it; make a ton of fiddly bitz that are no different than a standard "glue it together" model, or have some details be...muddled.

If you want a good example of the shortcomings of snapfit models, take a look at the Dark Vengeance beakie marine. Because his head is turned to the side, the entire left side of his face is melted into the back collar of his armor.

Snap-fit models also run into the problem of minimal customizations. They're basically all monopose and would often require more modelling skills from the average hobbyist to make unique. Their only real perk is that they're cheap, but GW seems to be almost allergic to that word.

However, with the Battle for Vedros coming, it seems that GW is more willing to embrace cheaper snap-fit models to get youngbloods into the game. It could also be a boon for us oldbloods since they make for great filler models. I have a whole Green Tide made up of snap-fit AoBR Boyz. Just painting the buggers is doing a number on my sanity, I can't imagine having to actually assemble them all from the actual kit.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Snapfit models have major problems for sprue-cutting, cuz sprue molds are always 2-piece ones and for snap-fit models there's really only two ways to go about it; make a ton of fiddly bitz that are no different than a standard "glue it together" model, or have some details be...muddled.

If you want a good example of the shortcomings of snapfit models, take a look at the Dark Vengeance beakie marine. Because his head is turned to the side, the entire left side of his face is melted into the back collar of his armor.

Snap-fit models also run into the problem of minimal customizations. They're basically all monopose and would often require more modelling skills from the average hobbyist to make unique. Their only real perk is that they're cheap, but GW seems to be almost allergic to that word.

However, with the Battle for Vedros coming, it seems that GW is more willing to embrace cheaper snap-fit models to get youngbloods into the game. It could also be a boon for us oldbloods since they make for great filler models. I have a whole Green Tide made up of snap-fit AoBR Boyz. Just painting the buggers is doing a number on my sanity, I can't imagine having to actually assemble them all from the actual kit.

This.

So, I have nothing against snap fit...I have tons of them. But depending on the model, it can be very hard to customize them.
(I have managed some customization with the DA termies, but it indeed has been a lot of work - BUT they are quite cheap....sooooooo).

Sure, its cheaper and easier to assemble, but once you have a bunch some folks do not like the lack of pose diversity.

Nothing is wrong with them - this is more a question like "paint all my models a single color - why not".
If you like it, thats fine, there are pros to it certainly.

Others might not like it, and for them thats fine too.

The lack of depth is a pretty big deal - scabbards that taper off into hips because there is no other way, etc. It's part of the trade off i guess.

GW has had alot of snap-fit and almost-monopose plastics over the years, but as others have said it's hard to make them with the same quality as the multipart kits. Further, GW now presents it's armies in a way that implies that no two minis should ever look exactly the same and monopose, press-fit models work against that.

My other suspicion is that snap-fit models canibalize the sales of other lines and skew the customers impression of value. First, why should they let you buy 3 figs for $10 when they can make you buy 10 for $40. Secondly, the incredible versatility that you get with the wealth of bits in most GW kits is one of the ways they/we justify the high cost. If there were alot of simple kits for less, the cost of the big kits would seem less appealing.

While I agree with most of the above, the Start Collecting sets, while monopose, are decent quality models. I picked up the Slaves to Darkness set as a way in to AoS. No parts melting into bodies, cloaks, etc. The Chaos Warriors are about 5 pieces to put together, I'm very pleased with the way tyey're painting up. I have three left to paint in my Warrior unit, then a Sorcerer Lord, 5 Knights, and a Chariot. I've built everything but the Charriot, and they're all nice looking models. There's enough variety in shields, weapons and heads, that they look different from far, but far from different. Still, they paint up nice, and care was taken to place parts on the sprue to minimize mold lines.

If the other sets are of the same quality, then these really are a bargain by GW standards. They're a huge step above the Macragge or Black Reach type model. From this point on, my purchases for this army will be multipart kits, but this makes a better than decent looking start.

Those Start Collecting sets aren't monopose, though. Like a lot of WFB kits the poses are quite static, so they could rank up for that system, but there's still options in posing that could be easily capitalised on now they're on nice, spacious round bases.Monopose refers to kits that can only go together one way, snapfit to those that are designed not to require glue (like Dark Vengeance, Island of Blood, possibly the AoS starter?).

GW's snap-fit models in recent starter sets have been pretty bloody impressive, it has to be said. The odd dodgy mini aside like the aforementioned beaky), Dark Vengeance plastics are amazing, as was the Island of Blood set, Standard snap-fit space marines are hard to convert, but not impossible if you're willing to be a little clipper-happy and have bits and GS to fill in any gaps. And converting stuff like the Dark Vengeance Chosen and Terminators is mostly easy as pie if you have the bits box for it!