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A "formation" is described in the rules as a type of detachment, but both the larger and smaller groups use this same term.

1) I have the Dark Angels codex and can see that both the Lion's Blade Strike Force and the Deathwing Redemption Force are "formations". So, if I wanted to I could field just a Deathwing Redemption Force as a stand-alone battle-forged army, and get the benefits listed on the Deathwing Redemption Force page, right? Though obviously I wouldn't get the Lion's Blade Strike Force bonuses, as I don't meet the minimum for that with just one sub-formation.

2) The rule book doesn't seem to specify that detachments must be the same faction. In fact the AD is worded such that ti's faction must be a DIFFERENT faction from "...any other detachments". Does this mean I could mix armies using other detachment types? A Deathwing Redemption Force and a Canoptek Harvest fielded together as a battle-forged army?

3) Some bonuses refer to "in this/the formation". Do these carry over to the larger formation? Ravenwing Attack Squadron (a "formation") for example gives a bonus to "....all models in this Formation" with a capital F. Would all members of a Lion's Blade Strike Force get this bonus, or just the two units in the Ravenwing Attack Squadron?


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Statictician wrote:
A "formation" is described in the rules as a type of detachment, but both the larger and smaller groups use this same term.

1) I have the Dark Angels codex and can see that both the Lion's Blade Strike Force and the Deathwing Redemption Force are "formations". So, if I wanted to I could field just a Deathwing Redemption Force as a stand-alone battle-forged army, and get the benefits listed on the Deathwing Redemption Force page, right? Though obviously I wouldn't get the Lion's Blade Strike Force bonuses, as I don't meet the minimum for that with just one sub-formation.

2) The rule book doesn't seem to specify that detachments must be the same faction. In fact the AD is worded such that ti's faction must be a DIFFERENT faction from "...any other detachments". Does this mean I could mix armies using other detachment types? A Deathwing Redemption Force and a Canoptek Harvest fielded together as a battle-forged army?

3) Some bonuses refer to "in this/the formation". Do these carry over to the larger formation? Ravenwing Attack Squadron (a "formation") for example gives a bonus to "....all models in this Formation" with a capital F. Would all members of a Lion's Blade Strike Force get this bonus, or just the two units in the Ravenwing Attack Squadron?


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1) The Lion's Blade Strike Force is not a formation but just a detachment. But you're correct: Since the DWRF is a Formation, which means it is also a detachment, you can take it solo and still have a battle-forged army. Why is the difference between Formations and Detachments important? Well! In an unbound list, you loose all your Command Benefits - which means basically "anything that a pure detachment offers you in terms of benefits". A Formation however has "Special Rules", and those remain active even in an unbound army.

2) Yes, you are free to build an army by using multiple detachments, and those detachments can be of any Faction. The only exception that I know of is the AD, as you've already pointed out correctly. However you will have to deal with the Allies matrix, which tells you how those different Factions will interact with each other. Bringing Inquisitors and Necrons in the same Army will result in difficulties coordinating both forces (e.g. you can't share transports, you really don't want to be close to each other and so on - see the BRB for details)

3) No. As I said - all the "multiple formations" detachments are pure detachments, not Formations - that in itself already answers your question, but in addition to that "This Formation" always refers to, indeed, THAT formation, and no other.

Statictician wrote:
1) I have the Dark Angels codex and can see that both the Lion's Blade Strike Force and the Deathwing Redemption Force are "formations". So, if I wanted to I could field just a Deathwing Redemption Force as a stand-alone battle-forged army, and get the benefits listed on the Deathwing Redemption Force page, right? Though obviously I wouldn't get the Lion's Blade Strike Force bonuses, as I don't meet the minimum for that with just one sub-formation.

The Strike Force is not a Formation, just a Detachment like the Combined Arms Detachment. Where they differ is what they use for Choices.

But otherwise, yeah, the DRF can be fielded as many times as you have points and it would be considered Battle-Forged. Even when rolling Unbound, the DRF Special Rules are in play.

Statictician wrote:
2) The rule book doesn't seem to specify that detachments must be the same faction. In fact the AD is worded such that ti's faction must be a DIFFERENT faction from "...any other detachments". Does this mean I could mix armies using other detachment types? A Deathwing Redemption Force and a Canoptek Harvest fielded together as a battle-forged army?

Yes, you can. Review the Allies section for more information.

Statictician wrote:
3) Some bonuses refer to "in this/the formation". Do these carry over to the larger formation? Ravenwing Attack Squadron (a "formation") for example gives a bonus to "....all models in this Formation" with a capital F. Would all members of a Lion's Blade Strike Force get this bonus, or just the two units in the Ravenwing Attack Squadron?

No, they would not. They only are applied to the units or models that are listed in that formation's unit list. ICs joined to those units might be able to benefit as well, depending on the phrasing of the rule itself. Even in cases where a Formation is made up of other Formations, the individual Formations that make it up only apply their rules to their individual lists but all receive the Special Rules of the greater detachment.

Keep it civil.