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Trying to not spend money on new models. And so have come up with this list using models I own. I may be prepared to purchase the odd unit or two. But I'd like critique on what I've written and what people think it's weaknesses are and such. The secondary idea behind this list is to encourage me to paint models I haven't yet painted. Here it is.

Craftworld Eldar - CAD.

HQ - Farseer, bike, spirit stone. (Telepathy for invis switching to div for prescience)
HQ - Warlock conclave - 2x Warlocks, bikes. (Farseer goes here)

Elites - 5x Wraithguard, D-Scythes, Wave Serpent with TL SL & SC
Elites - 5x Wraithguard, D-Scythes, Wave Serpent with TL SL & SC

Troops - 3x Bikes with Shuriken Cannons
Troops - 3x Bikes with Scatter Lasers
Troops - 3x Bikes with Scatter Lasers

Fast Attack - Crimson Hunter Exarch with bright lances.

Heavy Support - Fire Prism
Heavy Support - Fire Prism

Lord of War - Wraithknight, Wraith cannons.

Thoughts?

In my possession I have a squad of harlequins, a solitaire, a death jester, a shadowseer, a dual cannon vyper, another Farseer on bike, 5 dire avengers, 6 swooping Hawks, 2 foot seers, 2 foot warlocks, a spirit seer, a Wraithlord and a sword and board Wraithknight. But I'm confident that this is pretty strong and well rounded.

I'm not entirely crazy about the idea of a two man conclave. Warlocks on bikes are expensive ablative wounds for a Farseer, and their net price is an additional Farseer (additional wound and Warp Charge).

Other than that I've always preferred Glaive/Shield Wraithknight, however I play with ITC nerfed ranged D. If you do not then by all means carry on.

Hope that helps!

Yeah, our rulings don't nerf ranged D. I've used my sword and shield one to great effect. He's my preferred. But he's also fully painted and my dual cannon one isn't. Want to try him for a bit.

I did consider a second seer over the two locks. Ditch the spirit stone and I've got enough for a second bike seer. But the conceal reveal power has given me so much before! I can use it for a 2+ jink save on the unit, or I've used it to give the Wraithknight or fire prisms a kind of pseudo ignores cover before. And it's even better with protect/jinx and fortune. Though that's very situational. The idea is invis on the knight and keeping the warlord alive with 2+ jink. So what do you honestly think is better? A 2 man Farseer unit or how I have it?

Hm. I've avoided Conceal in the past as I typically have a pocket Shriek and Eldritch/other as a part of a Seer Council. But if you're accepting that most times you'll be at jinking status and have no offensive desire, then perhaps you just need a Warlock upgrade in a Windrider pack with no weapons over a second Warlock in a Conclave. Remove one Sky Warlock for 50, pick up three Winds for 51. You've gained two ablative wounds at the cost of one Warp Charge.

I wouldn't dare drop the Stone for anything. If you're relying on Invisibility or Fortune, that Stone is invaluable.

I have myself toyed with the idea of dropping a Wraithguard squad and the cannon bikes and putting a seer council in. I really want one, I love the idea, but I question its potential output.

I've used the Council quite extensively. They're extraordinarily powerful, but not on their own. I've found their best use is force multiplication. Staying alive while buffing already efficient units (Fortune -> Wraithknight, Guide -> ScatBikes) and debuffing terrors of the game (Jinx -> Wolfstar, Doom -> Wraithknight).

That way they soak damage well and provide a solid yield of damage.

That's pretty much how I want to run them. Was tempted to use runes of battle on locks for reveal, jinx, horrify. Can combine that with psychic scream for some decent damage output. Hoping for invis, fortune, doom, guide, prescience, misfortune. I've heard I should go on sanctic for sanctuary but I'm fearful of perils.


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Ok, I've come up with this.....

Eldar CAD

HQ - Farseer, bike, spear

Elites - 5x Wraithguard, D-Scythes, Wave Serpent, TL SL, SC

Troops - 3x Windriders, 3x SL
Troops - 3x Windriders, 3x SL

Fast Attack - Crimson Hunter Exarch, Bright Lances

Heavy Support - Fire Prism
Heavy Support - Fire Prism

Lord of War - Wraithknight, Dual Cannons

Formation - Windrider Seer Council
Farseer, bike, spear
Farseer, bike, shard
Warlock, bike x5

I quite like it but it's lacking obsec. I've had to lose 3 Jetbikes and 5 scythe guard in a serpent. But I think the buffs and maeldictions they can kick out make it worth it. Any opinions?

Swooping hawks are money. I've used 10 of them to completely wipe guard blob squads. Even 6 can put a serious hurt on blobs, giving you a nice extra tool. They also have haywire gernades, further improving their effectiveness.

You are missing out on a lot of opportunity by not striving for formation advantages. An aspect host, for examples, increases the overall damage of the aspect warriors by 25%, in addition to making them nearly unbreakable. You have 5 avengers and 6 hawks, so would only need 6 spiders to make that work. I know you are trying not to spend money -- but that's a minimal purchase.

The sword and board wraithknight will get you further IMHO, and that's what I run. Your WK will be targeted by grav cannons, and that shield makes him 1/3 more durable. The shots he makes with the cannons are nice, but you have enough tools in your kit to deal with heavy armor.

A 3 man conclave unit is begging for your opponent to take 'slay the warlord'.

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I quite like it but it's lacking obsec. I've had to lose 3 Jetbikes and 5 scythe guard in a serpent. But I think the buffs and maeldictions they can kick out make it worth it. Any opinions?

It's much better IMHO

Yeah, I think the second list is better overall and I can be a little bit more aggressive with the seers with less of a risk of the warlord getting nailed. It's also a lot more reliable.

As for the aspect host, I see what you mean. But I personally don't like avengers or Hawks. That's why they're on the bench. Plus every list in my meta has an aspect host so I'm trying to avoid it. Not a single one has prisms or a seer council hence they're in.

I completely agree about the sword knight being more powerful. I ran it at the last tournament and he was epic. Exceptionally powerful and uber resilient. He also managed to soak up a crap tonne of firepower keeping the rest of my army alive. But the dual cannon one I own is unpainted, that's genuinely the biggest reason why he is in. So I have motivation to paint him. Also, there is three sword WK's in my local meta out of 3. So I want to be different. The idea is to place high (hopefully as high as last time) with different selections to the other three guys.