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Craft Worlds: 743

CAD:
2 Farseer
2x3 Scatbikes
1x3 Vauls Wrath Support Batteries w/ D Cannon

Allied Detachment:
1 Farseer
1x3 Scatbikes

The Plan:
Roll Stealth in Ruins on Strat table -
Join Farseers w/ Vauls Wrath- give them Invisibility, Stealth, Shrouded, ignores cover, guide, 4+ invul
Win

Opinions? I considered eldrad in place of 2 farseers but nah, maybe at higher points

I suppose it would be good except against things with ignore cover or that get in assault with you

2 Farseers > Eldrad imo.

Also that list officially makes you a terrible person. I hope you're happy.

Considering you can't ally with yourself, no.


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Besides the fact that D-cannons have 24" range and are easily avoidable, once you kill the Scatterbikes, you're golden.

That's true! But there is still invisiblity t7 and 4 witch blades so I wouldn't get destroyed in CC, and a lotta ignores cover is blast and templates which can't snapfire. Is there a list you think that would cause me trouble?

marcman wrote:
That's true! But there is still invisiblity t7 and 4 witch blades so I wouldn't get destroyed in CC, and a lotta ignores cover is blast and templates which can't snapfire. Is there a list you think that would cause me trouble?

As my Necrons? I'd bring a few Flyers with min Immortal Squads for Obsec. Win.

Yea d cannon range is a concern, I may not be able to fire T1, but the bikes are decntly hard to take out. Why can you not ally with yourself? NIDS do it

marcman wrote:
Yea d cannon range is a concern, I may not be able to fire T1, but the bikes are decntly hard to take out. Why can you not ally with yourself? NIDS do it

Nids bring multiple CADs (which is fine), as well as different types of detachments (from campaign supplements). You cannot take an Ally detachment that is the same faction as your primary detachment.

That said, Scatterbikes are T4 3+ LD8. Not hard to take out. The only real trick with them is being able to get close enough to shoot at them, but anyone who brings a flier will give your list a hard time.

749 pts
CAD:
2 Farseer
2x3 Scatbikes
1x2 Vauls Wrath Support Batteries w/ D Cannon and warlock

CAD2:
1 Farseer
2x3 2 Scatbikes 1 normal

The rules of the battle require a CAD, so at 750 pts I don't think I don't need to worry about flyer spam, maybe 1 at most. And at bigger point battles I feel like I can just ignore them honestly

marcman wrote:
749 pts
CAD:
2 Farseer
2x3 Scatbikes
1x2 Vauls Wrath Support Batteries w/ D Cannon and warlock

CAD2:
1 Farseer
2x3 2 Scatbikes 1 normal

The rules of the battle require a CAD, so at 750 pts I don't think I don't need to worry about flyer spam, maybe 1 at most. And at bigger point battles I feel like I can just ignore them honestly

Off the top of my head, I could bring...

1x Cryptek

3x 5-man Immortals
3x Dedicated Night Scythes

1x Destroyer

750 on the dot, and a CAD.

Fair enough ha-ha! I could drop the second CAD and take an aspect host of warpspiders/swooping hawks/ darkreapers. Idk the points of the top of my head but it should work out. Any suggestions? 2 hawks 1 spider squad?

You understand like over half that army is in reserves and is unable to score objectives? Flyers at this points level is a liability.

Your list looks fine. Cheesy. Gross. But fine.

Looks fun. Here go play!

Formations 750



Farsight Enclaves CAD 750


I think you have too many points locked up in Farseers and your D-Cannons. I would trim it down to one Jetseer and maybe add a Wraithknight or warpspiders or better yet the Spiderknight=)

Ha-ha I'm not taking a WK at 750 pts, you know flamers can't shoot at invisible targets cause you can't snapfire with it? And flamers als o won't do jack to the bikes? I did consider dropping the second CAD for an aspect host of 1 warpspiders and 2 darkreaper squads.


I could try this
747 pts
Eldar CAD:
Aurtch Skyrunner w/ Banshies mask and powerlance
2x3 Scatbikes
3x1 Support battery w/ D Cannon
Dark Eldar CAD
Archon w/ blaster in venom w/ Splinter cannon
Kalbite w/ blaster in venom w/ Splinter cannon
1x4 reavers w/ cluster

Plan "roll dice and get lucky" - not the best plan.

You won't get stealth ruins most of the time. And any army with longer than 24" range will shoot you to death.

Also. It's an illegal list. You can't take a CAD and an allied detachment unless you are space marines.

Also, Fliers? FMCs? Anything that can get super close? Cullexus in a pod?

You could have fun. Psychic phase is a laugh. I LOVE farseers. But this ain't broken TBH

Add Baharoth and swap the D Platforms for Wraithguard. Roll on Sanctic fishing for Gate. THAT is broken.


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Sorry hadn't read all the comments. See you realised the mistake and got rid of Allies.

Ha-ha tbh I just wanted to find a way to take the Vauls Wrath, if I could get infiltrate rule it would be even better as then the guns can start 18 inches away. I agree this list isnt too op if the dice decide to screw me with physic powers, perils, or scatter. Am considering this list:
CAD 742
Farseer
2x3 scat
1x3 Vauls w/ D
Aspect Host
3x5 Warp Spiders w/ ertch

And can either roll divination for ignores cover and presience, runes of fate for guide, or satanic for gate of infinty

This list seems almost cheesier- if I roll infiltrate I can infiltrate the D cannons w the farseers and a spider squad and for rerolling misses
Or stealth I can go for the gate depending on the map

This is why people take Eldrad with the D Batteries. It's dope.

marcman wrote:
That's true! But there is still invisiblity t7 and 4 witch blades so I wouldn't get destroyed in CC, and a lotta ignores cover is blast and templates which can't snapfire. Is there a list you think that would cause me trouble?

T7 ?

Check the artillery page listing on 64. In assault, rolls are made against the crew, not the guns. Also, no one fears witch blades.

Next, 40k is often about killing power armor, T4, save 3. You are fielding a little less than that in Scatbikes . Killing off your mobile fire power will be easier than killing a squad of marines.

Play a few games and let us know how you did.

A minor point, but 750 or less ought to be played on 4x4'. That might help the vaul guns.

I give input as an eldar player.

Will do! Thanks for the tips!
Am right now leaning towards:
CAD
Warlock
2x3 Scatbikes
2x2 Vauls Wrath
1x2 Vauls Wrath with D
ASPECT HOST
3x5 Warp Spiders w/ exarch

But alternativly could take single Vauls Wrath with D instead of the shadow Weaver or a swooping hawk squad as anti tank, any opinions?