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SM have a warlord trait:
All models in yours warlord Detachment can use his Leadership value in place of their own.

For example, we have Calgar and a space marine nearby. And a herley character with masque of secrets that gets -2 LD to models within 12".

What will happen when:

1. Marine has -2 modifier.
2. Calgar has -2 modifier.
3. Both Calgar and Marine have -2 modifier.

As i see it:
1. We take Calgar's ld for marine and get 10-2
2. Calgar has 10-2 atm, so getting his LD won't matter
3. Marine has 8-2. If he chooses to get Calgar's ld he'll have 10-2-2.

Though, the opponent argues that "in place of their own" can mean that a marine would get 8-2 and than put 10 in place of his own as 10 is the value in profile.

Modifiers from the same ability/rule can never stack witht itself unless the rule specifically says so, so it should never be 10-2-2.

Right at the start of the rule book it talks about modifiers/swap outs.

IIrc the order of application is multipliers, +/- modifiers, then swap outs...

Seems a bit dodge though, since it would mean you could use characters that project their leadership onto other troops to allow them to ignore modifiers (say when using a hordey close combat tar pit).

nareik wrote:
Right at the start of the rule book it talks about modifiers/swap outs.

IIrc the order of application is multipliers, +/- modifiers, then swap outs...

Seems a bit dodge though, since it would mean you could use characters that project their leadership onto other troops to allow them to ignore modifiers (say when using a hordey close combat tar pit).

it says that fixed numbers after all. Would LD be a fixed number in this case? Doubt it.

So, any other ideas?


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Lusiphur wrote:
Modifiers from the same ability/rule can never stack witht itself unless the rule specifically says so, so it should never be 10-2-2.

That's a dodgy situation as they don't stack on the same unit but in this case, a unit may use the characteristics from another one that can be affected by the rule.