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First and foremost, thank you Tomb King for playing RH and posting valuable insight on his bat rep. Thank you Unclean one for always taking the time to review my lists. Thirdly i would like to thank the person who reported me for spam and taking away my quick post privilege...

Anyways I am back at it again trying to build my dream army. I am so close! Just ordered 58 cultists for $50!!! off ebay!!!

RH: Unending Host
Renegade Command Squad, Arch demigogue, master of the horde @65

Infantry platoon Command Squad, militia training, man with command vox, 2 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 90
Infantry platoon Squad1, militia training, 3 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 95
Infantry platoon Squad2, militia training, 3 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 95

Infantry platoon Command Squad, militia training, man with command vox, 2 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 90
Infantry platoon Squad1, militia training, 3 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 95
Infantry platoon Squad2, militia training, 3 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 95

Infantry platoon Command Squad, militia training, man with command vox, 2 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 90
Infantry platoon Squad1, militia training, 3 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 95
Infantry platoon Squad2, militia training, 3 men with meltaguns, 1 hwt autocannon@ 95

10 mutant rabbles @30

RH: The Purge

Renegade command squad @45

6x3 Spawns @330

4x3 hwt, autocannon@55 x 4 =220

Total=1530

Need to cut 30pts but where?

First i was told that the hwt counts as 2 men, so then i have 15 men per infantry squad. Base 10 with autoguns+ 1 command vox (or meltagun) + 2 meltaguns and 1 hwt =15 men. I was told to skip the sub flak armor.

Interestingly, a hwt team in an infantry squad does not get taxed 7pts like the heavy slot support squad of 55pts for 3 autocannons. 55pts vs 48pts (16x3=48) so I decided to sneak in 1 per the 9 infantry squads to save 47pts.

Next i noticed that each hwt pricing was wierd. a squad of 3 is 55pts. A squad of 6 is 115pts. 115÷6=19.166pts. 55÷3=18.33pts. So that means it was better to take msu hwt. So I took 4 squads of 3 to essentially save 4 pts. But i have convinced myself i some how saved 10pts illogicaly. 2x6 hwt with ac=230pts vs 4x3 hwt with ac =220pts. For better or for worse, 1 hwt model dying caused a ld check vs a squad of 6 needing 2 models to break moral. 2 wounds vs 4 wound threshold to break moral.

I decided to ditch lascannons for ac to have ghetto anti air capabilities and have ample ap4 to hurt certain crons, tau, scouts, skitarii, orks. In total, i have 21 ac but 9 of which are recurring and most often moving and snap firing. I chose to rely on the 24 melta guns to provide anti vehicle role. I need to rely on outflanking after they gwt killed. I initially wanted to use 8-9 plasmaguns and 16-18 meltaguns but Tomb King advice was to take no plasmaguns.

This list allows me to meet the requirements of 13x9=117 infanty models and instead of the initial 20x12=240 or 15x12=180 i thought i needed to complete infantry squads. Therefore i was able to cut so many models. Combined with the 9 hwts I have 126 recurring models. The other requirements are 2x5 command squads and 10 mutant rabbles.

You probably also thinking, but aren't hwt expensive? Well not for me because I am scratch building them with my existing havocs with autocannons and using a bolt action soldier and putting them on the large base. Btw what size base do hwt use? 40mm?

edit: google search says hwt are 60mm bases. Just bought 20 for $8! I will make that 21th one outta something. I am so freaking excited!!! I havent been this excited since I bought all those imperial knights thinking I was going to be unstoppable! Then if fought people and they wreck them turn 2...

I think chew cans are right around 60mm...if you know someone or are someone with that filthy habit.


Also you could swap from melta guns to something cheaper....HWT and melta guns dont really pair well together. So you could drop a few HWT from melta squads or switch to GLs to save a few points.

by any chance you know how to convert a flamer or plasma gun into a grenade launcher?

I like that GL+HWT combo compared to me moving the hwt ac and snap firing every turn.

I wouldnt convert plasma, they are generally harder to come by. You should be able to find some GL bits from most any guard player. or from ebay for cheap. a infantry box comes with 4? i believe so there are plenty of extra out there.

Just realized an inefficiency.

All 4 of my hwt in the Purge had bs2 and needed militia training. That means I need to drop squads.

New fix to above list.

The Purge

HVY SPPRT
6 hwt,Militia training, autocannon@125
3 hwt, militiia training, autocannon@65

Doing this and dropping from 12 to 9 ac gets me to 1500pts exactly. I wish I could have more :(.