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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch





Eye of Terror.

So part of Daemon of Tzeentch says that you get +3 Leadership when casting Psychic Powers. I understand that this comes from 6th edition, so how does it work in 7th? Should we replace it as Daemons of Tzeentch gain +3 Leadership during the Psychic Phase? Or is there another way that is more generally accepted?

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It doesn't do anything during 7th edition. Your local group might play it differently but that's a house rule.

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It helps with perils. That is all
   
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential





It used to be a way to make them good/the best at casting powers without giving them a high base leadership.

Now the god of magic is overshadowed by farseers and librarian conclaves and nothing was truly given to replace our lost skill in the latest update, save a warlord trait and a relic.

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Your opponent *might* like you use the +3LD for any Perils tests, however this would be a house rule. I would let you do this, as otherwise the rule has no effect.

   
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How does it not work for perils tests, Galef ?

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AncientSkarbrand wrote:
How does it not work for perils tests, Galef ?

RAW in the +3LD is for taking Psychic Tests, which now do not use LD in 7th ed, but instead uses Warp Charge. A Perils test is something different.

But if someone were to read the rule with no knowledge of how 6th ed worked, the logical conclusion is that the +3LD is meant for the Perils test. Hence why I have no issue with anyone doing so.

   
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 Galef wrote:
AncientSkarbrand wrote:
How does it not work for perils tests, Galef ?

RAW in the +3LD is for taking Psychic Tests, which now do not use LD in 7th ed, but instead uses Warp Charge. A Perils test is something different.

But if someone were to read the rule with no knowledge of how 6th ed worked, the logical conclusion is that the +3LD is meant for the Perils test. Hence why I have no issue with anyone doing so.

Admitting ignorance in this area, it is not something I refer to, aren't Perils Tests part of the whole casting process, though?

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That is why it is the logical conclusion to just use the rule for Perils.
My point was that you get +3LD for taking a Psychic test, not during the whole Psychic phase. Psychic tests are taken with WC, not LD

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 Galef wrote:
That is why it is the logical conclusion to just use the rule for Perils.
My point was that you get +3LD for taking a Psychic test, not during the whole Psychic phase. Psychic tests are taken with WC, not LD

Daemon of Tzeentch gives +3 LD while manifesting psyhic powers, not just for the psychic test. The rulebook is quite clear that perils happens during the manifestation of a psychic power so its completely RAW that Daemon of Tzeetnch has +3 LD for Perils.
   
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What crown axe said, that was what I also thought RAW dictated.

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Fair enough. I guess I was still hooked on the 6th ed rules. This makes my Horrors, Herald and LoC a bit better.

   
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch





Eye of Terror.

Thanks, this is as I thought. It occurs for the whole casting process and thereby helps with Perils.

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