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Idea for this list is to go suit heavy, boost Pathfinder survivablilty and have interceptor everywhere. 2 ghostkeels in the OSC give an extra unit to the formation that ignores cover while giving one of the Ghostkeels velo tracker gives the list some decent AA - and AA that hits rear armor. The XV109's and XV104 would harass everyone from vehicles to hordes with high strength large blast and 4 torrents. Pathfinders and broadsides would hold back field objectives and strike teams could move to midfield. I could see trouble with invisibility and leadership shenanigans.

Thoughts?

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (917pts) ++
+ Formation (917pts) +

Optimized Stealth Cadre (575pts)
··XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon, Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon]
····Stealth Shas'ui with Fusion Blaster [Fusion Blaster, Target Lock]
··XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon, Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon]
····Stealth Shas'ui with Fusion Blaster [Fusion Blaster, Target Lock]
··XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuits
····Ghostkeel Shas'vre [Cyclic Ion Raker, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster, Velocity Tracker]
····Ghostkeel Shas'vre [Cyclic Ion Raker, Stimulant Injector, Target Lock, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster]

Ranged Support Cadre (342pts)
··Pathfinder Team [4x Pathfinder]
··Pathfinder Team [4x Pathfinder]
··Pathfinder Team [4x Pathfinder]
··XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
····Broadside [Early Warning Override, Twin-linked High-Yield Missile Pod, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
··XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
····Broadside [Early Warning Override, Twin-linked High-Yield Missile Pod, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
··XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
····Broadside [Early Warning Override, Twin-linked High-Yield Missile Pod, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (933pts) ++

+ HQ (60pts) +

Ethereal (60pts) [Hover Drone, Recon Armour]

+ Elites (225pts) +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuits (225pts)
··Riptide Shas'vre [Early Warning Override, Ion Accelerator, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle]

+ Troops (108pts) +

Strike Team (54pts) [6x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]

Strike Team (54pts) [6x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]

+ Fast Attack (540pts) +

XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit [FW] (270pts) [Early Warning Override, Stimulant Injector]

XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit [FW] (270pts) [Early Warning Override, Stimulant Injector]

humm a good solid list. i like the use of OSC as AA, a very good idea that can make people that run lots of flyers and DS units cry a lil bit. the only thing i think this actually lacks is mobility and the ability to effectively take on multiple Knight lists. the ethereal is kinda missplaced here but for his use for FNP on a small unit of pathfinders. if thats the case then maybe swap him out for a cheepo buffmander, or grab a cadFireblade and fill up a strike squad?

Also why did you put EWO on your XV109's? the flamers can auto hit and you cant snap fire blasts.

EWO grants interceptor. No snap shooting. The ion discharge cannon fires 3 shots or if you nova charge it - 3 + d3.

My thought was that if someone deep strikes in something really dirty beside him, he'll annihilate them with AP 2/3 weapons.

I mean I don't see what the ethereal will do for you, other than fill the hq slot. I don't see a lot of marker lights other than the pathfinders. I know they'll have good cover but with t3 and bad armor flamers will be bad news.

How do you handle something high toughness, say a wraithknight? I suppose your answer is volume of fire.

Going with a CAD I would try to get tetras and possibly a supremacy suit in there but I suppose that would mean dropping one of the formations.

The tournaments at my shop have a ban of Super heavies and GC's in an attempt to decrease cheese. Main concern will be deathstars, crazy formations, mass drop pods, MSU.

I feel like if I were facing a list with a wraith knight I would have to focus fire on it with the XV109s and Riptide or ignore it and kill everything else. 109s can each put out 3+D3 Str8 AP3 shots as well as 2 Str 6 AP2 torrents, coupled with the Riptides' Str 8 Ap 2 Blast or 3 Str7 Ap2 Shots + Ripple Fire Fusion blaster.

Realistically a wraithknight is a unit that I would try to avoid. The focus would be on killing everything else first. 109s can long jump to jetbike squads and take them out with flammers and his shotgun. Warp spiders are brutal but everyone has interceptor so hopefully we can take them out first.



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Epartalis wrote:
I mean I don't see what the ethereal will do for you, other than fill the hq slot. I don't see a lot of marker lights other than the pathfinders. I know they'll have good cover but with t3 and bad armor flamers will be bad news.

How do you handle something high toughness, say a wraithknight? I suppose your answer is volume of fire.

Going with a CAD I would try to get tetras and possibly a supremacy suit in there but I suppose that would mean dropping one of the formations.

The ethereal is just to fillout the HQ Slot. Points wise, I can't fit a buffmander in. In a larger game I would have more units that would make use of his storm of fire.

your ranged support cadre would be better if your pathfinders took their good guns, then drop the stealth teams and take fire warriors instead to detract fire from them, you'd have enough high strength and good ap where you won't need fusion blasters.

The stealth teams are required for the OSC formation.

Ranged support w/ pathfinder teams that have heavy weapons eh? Interesting...but then i have no marker light support.