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So getting a Tzeentch Warlord trait and turn a Khorne Prince into a psyker sounded strange. But I think I have found something wierder. I would not play like this, it is something of a fun thought experiment though. Thoughts? RAW?

So the Infernal Tetrad says that if 1 of the Princes is your warlord, all other models in the formation also have the same warlord trait.
The warlord traits in turn says "Your warlord ...." in many cases. For example "Your warlord has the feel no pain special rule", another wording is "Add 1 to your Warlord's Mastery level".

So, this is "fun" since all princes in the formation get the rule, but they are not counted as warlords, they just have a rule saying "Your warlord xyz", or in the fun case "Add 1 to your warlords mastery level"

Let's pretend we get this on a lvl 3 Tzeentch prince, he will then get +1 from the trait and then +3 more from the other princes having the same rule, increasing the warlords ML by 1. Go go lvl 7 psyker.

Another fun one would be FnP from nurgle, which would result in a 2+ FnP, or +1S from Khorne.

Why would the non-warlords contribute to your warlords Mastery level?


P.S. you can't benefit from the same rule more than once anyway.

So what you suggest is not possible.

 DeathReaper wrote:
Why would the non-warlords contribute to your warlords Mastery level?

Because the Infernal Tetrad states that all models in the formation gains the same warlord trait as the warlord, if the warlord is chosen from that formation, and the warlord trait exemplified above states that:
"Add 1 to your warlord's mastery level. [...]".

 DeathReaper wrote:

P.S. you can't benefit from the same rule more than once anyway.

So what you suggest is not possible.

This would be a way to argue it away. Although are they really benefiting from the same rule more than once? It is a bit like the Dark Eldar -1 ld rule from the Coven book (units within 6" or 12" from a unit from a Coven formation suffer -1 ld) and I've seen people playing those as stacking.

dethric wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

P.S. you can't benefit from the same rule more than once anyway.

So what you suggest is not possible.

This would be a way to argue it away. Although are they really benefiting from the same rule more than once? It is a bit like the Dark Eldar -1 ld rule from the Coven book (units within 6" or 12" from a unit from a Coven formation suffer -1 ld) and I've seen people playing those as stacking.

Some people always try to get things to stack when they do not. They often forget that Special Rules do not stack unless they state otherwise.

But yeah, he's still benefiting from the same rule. If you were saying each unit became ML 1, that would be different, but not every unit adding to the ML of the Warlord. It's all the same rule, and it does not state "for each Warlord in your army".

dethric wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
Why would the non-warlords contribute to your warlords Mastery level?

Because the Infernal Tetrad states that all models in the formation gains the same warlord trait as the warlord, if the warlord is chosen from that formation, and the warlord trait exemplified above states that:
"Add 1 to your warlord's mastery level. [...]".

So all those models become the warlord?

You still only have one warlord... so "all models in the formation gains the same warlord trait as the warlord" would not work for a non warlord model with the rule. he would not give it to others, even though he himself would benefit.

 DeathReaper wrote:

dethric wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
Why would the non-warlords contribute to your warlords Mastery level?

Because the Infernal Tetrad states that all models in the formation gains the same warlord trait as the warlord, if the warlord is chosen from that formation, and the warlord trait exemplified above states that:
"Add 1 to your warlord's mastery level. [...]".

So all those models become the warlord?

You still only have one warlord... so "all models in the formation gains the same warlord trait as the warlord" would not work for a non warlord model with the rule. he would not give it to others, even though he himself would benefit.

No, all those models do not become the warlord, but:
Model 1 is the warlord
Model 2-4 gets a rule that says "Your warlord gets {something}"
Model 2-4 buffs the warlord with that rule, for example +1 mastery level. Model 2-4 themselves do not benefit from the rule.
Note that the warlord traits do not say "If this model is your warlord it gains xyz", the warlord traits say "Your warlord gains xyz", which means that no matter which model has the rule, the warlord is the one who benefits from it.

This is an unnessecary comment though since the answer was given above: Does not work since you cannot benefit from the same special rule more than once, assuming that the warlord trait counts as a special rule (which i cannot find a reference for).

In the end, this means there are few WL-traits that work with the Tetrad. For example Strategic Genius, Master of Ambush and Princeps of Deceit.

So.. are you saying there's almost no point whatsoever in the infernal tetrad bonus of granting a warlord trait to multiple models?

I'm not entirely convinced that Warlord Traits are considered "special rules" by the definition of the rule book. The sections for USRs and Psychic Powers specifically state no stacking, but the same isn't true for Warlord Traits.