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Hi all I have always collected Salamanders for 40K and could not forego the Legion for 30K.

I have acquired a fair few things (mostly collector - no really many people to play with) but struggling with lists.
I have the Betrayal at Calth set, 5 Pyroclasts, 5 Firedrakes, a Deredeo, 6 Jetbikes, a 10 man squad of missile launchers (some of this was new, others second hand) I also got a 5 man standard mk3 squad (i just like the models - wanted to use them as infiltrators kind of thing)

I know that Jetbikes and Nocturne arent the best match but I wanted to reflect the remnants of the Legion as they left Isstvan and maybe found the remaining Salamanders across Macgrage and ofc Nocturne. So just 6 bikes wouldn't go massively anti fluff but its the army lists I get stuck with. Not sure if I drop pod everyone or slog up with Rhinos and the Spartan I want to get (Pyro get a ride on a rhino they take from another squad)

Any rough ideas? Any help would be great really

EVERYONE seems to go for a spartan (Oh noes! a tougher land raider to move your already 800+ point death star! what ever will we all do!), and unless you are gonna run said deathstar, I would either avoid it (since it costs a ton) or build a list around supporting it.

Deep striking is stopped by one of the two legion RoWs (https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Space_Marine_Legion_List_%2830k%29#XVIII_Legion:_Salamanders) but really, these complaints are fairly asinine since you SHOULD be building what you think looks cool/ may play fun/is fluffy rather then worrying about what would be 'good' (99.9% of all units in 30k are good. some are Better, but there's very few useless units) What I would reccomend is picking 1 or 2 themes for your army: Flamer spam, transport troops, terminators, etc. etc. and building to be able to play one of those themes.

 Brennonjw wrote:
EVERYONE seems to go for a spartan (Oh noes! a tougher land raider to move your already 800+ point death star! what ever will we all do!), and unless you are gonna run said deathstar, I would either avoid it (since it costs a ton) or build a list around supporting it.

Deep striking is stopped by one of the two legion RoWs (https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Space_Marine_Legion_List_%2830k%29#XVIII_Legion:_Salamanders) but really, these complaints are fairly asinine since you SHOULD be building what you think looks cool/ may play fun/is fluffy rather then worrying about what would be 'good' (99.9% of all units in 30k are good. some are Better, but there's very few useless units) What I would reccomend is picking 1 or 2 themes for your army: Flamer spam, transport troops, terminators, etc. etc. and building to be able to play one of those themes.

I just didnt want to go all common lol. I thought of using the bikes and flame them up as one could potentially trade the bolters for flamers and i will magnetize just in case they actually run badly lolol Spartan is indeed very expensive although looks great the Caestus was the other alternative but again quite pricey. I can recycle my rhinos and preds from 40k to it and just remembered i have a deimos pattern pred laying around will try something i suppose but yes flames are flames