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2016/03/17 20:43:12
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Nasty Nob
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Just saw this on BOLS:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/03/bombshell-games-workshop-returns-to-organized-play.html
BOMBSHELL: Games Workshop Returns to Organized Play
Posted by Larry Vela at March 17, 2016
The players have demanded organized play for 40K and Age of Sigmar – Reports say GW has listened. Here’s the details!
This week the GAMA tradeshow is occurring at Bally’s casino & resort in Las Vegas. This is the major north american industry tradeshow for game manufacturers.
Games Workshop is in attendance this year (see the floormap) and isn’t just manning a booth. They held multiple seminars including one Wednesday, March 16th titled “Build Community”
There was apparently some big news in there. BoLS has been told the following was revealed during the seminar:
GW will be returning to Organized Play!
Details of the Organized Play program are sketchy, and I’m sure the full program will be rolled out over the next few months. But here are the broad brushstrokes of what was reported from the seminar:
The Program will include Organized Play Systems for both Warhammer 40,000 and Age of Sigmar.
There will be a “campaign system” for each game.
Prize support is a part of the system.
The system will engage players at the Store, FLGS, and Convention level.
and the big one….
The Age of Sigmar campaign will include some type of “points” system!
This is HUGE NEWS! Games Workshop slowly but surely pulled out of the organized play scene over a handful of years roughly 5-6 years back leaving FLGSs and the entire tournament scene to fend for themselves. Their absence has been keenly felt in an industry with all other major manufacturers pushing forward full steam ahead on the Organized Play front. Privateer Press has a fantastic system up and running with new exciting annual league rules, unique prizes and evolving styles of play. FFG is charging in like a bull with organized play systems for all of their growing systems with lavish prize support (remember Massing at Sullust). Outfits like WizKids do the same with exclusive Organized Play models released each year.
There are a lot of directions GW can go in rolling out an Organized Play system, but it looks after years wandering in the desert that they are coming home – and with a points system for Age of Sigmar!
~More on this story as details come in.
Very interesting...
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2016/03/17 20:48:38
Subject: Re:GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Hierarch
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I'm part of a 30k group that has a guy who was actually at the seminar. He showed up on a podcast last night, seen [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBmVaEbKgP4]Here[/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBmVaEbKgP4] at around the 54:30 mark. He was having dinner at the time, and could only talk on his phone, but he provides a little insight into what was going on, and will hopefully have more info soon!
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2016/03/17 20:50:12
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Dakka Veteran
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Any chance you could provide that insight here?
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2016/03/17 21:00:13
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Lieutenant General
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2016/03/17 21:06:11
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Hierarch
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gak, messed up tge link trying to be fancy. Cant get it now as Ive just left the house, but the group is called The Forgotten Legion 30k. Its the newest broadcast.
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Tamereth wrote:
We'll take your Magnus leak and raise you plastic sisters, take that internet.
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2016/03/17 21:07:27
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Dakka Veteran
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Yeah, I was more saying that I hate listening to podcasts (and dont have speakers here anyway) and was hoping you could sum up here.
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2016/03/17 21:10:32
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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skarsol wrote:Yeah, I was more saying that I hate listening to podcasts (and dont have speakers here anyway) and was hoping you could sum up here.
Speaker won't do any good. Guy sounds like he's underwater.
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
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2016/03/17 21:25:50
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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GW seems to be slowly moving in the right direction. Has anyone checked the staff in Nottingham for (seemingly benevolent) brain parasites?
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2016/03/17 21:29:07
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Dayum!
I hope it's a points system that exists outside of the battletomes (maybe in the app). If it's not in print it can be constantly tweaked to perfect the balance.
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2016/03/17 21:29:35
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wonder if we will ever get another global campaign. As a new 40k fan I've never gotten a chance to participate in one. It would give me good reason to get into town no matter what and kick some ass in the name of the Greater Good.
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2016/03/17 21:34:18
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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 Gamgee wrote:I wonder if we will ever get another global campaign. As a new 40k fan I've never gotten a chance to participate in one. It would give me good reason to get into town no matter what and kick some ass in the name of the Greater Good.
I honestly expect the first wave of updates and campaigns to be AoS-related. As Sad Panda has said before: 2016 is the Year of Age of Sigmar as far as GW is concerned. 40k being the golden goose, we definitely won't be ignored completely, but I'm not expecting any FAQ/Errata/campaigns for us for quite some time.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2016/03/17 21:41:55
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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This could go well. I'm slightly hopeful. Granted with the most recent changes being pretty much all to the good I'm more hopeful than I have been in a while.
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They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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2016/03/17 21:42:51
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Dakka Veteran
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 Grimtuff wrote:skarsol wrote:Yeah, I was more saying that I hate listening to podcasts (and dont have speakers here anyway) and was hoping you could sum up here.
Speaker won't do any good. Guy sounds like he's underwater.
Poor audio on a podcast? Say it ain't so.
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2016/03/17 21:49:57
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Posts with Authority
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Rountree is beginning to make me cautiously optimistic.
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
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2016/03/17 21:55:41
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 EnTyme wrote: Gamgee wrote:I wonder if we will ever get another global campaign. As a new 40k fan I've never gotten a chance to participate in one. It would give me good reason to get into town no matter what and kick some ass in the name of the Greater Good.
I honestly expect the first wave of updates and campaigns to be AoS-related. As Sad Panda has said before: 2016 is the Year of Age of Sigmar as far as GW is concerned. 40k being the golden goose, we definitely won't be ignored completely, but I'm not expecting any FAQ/Errata/campaigns for us for quite some time.
Next year is likely our big 40k year then.
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2016/03/17 21:59:12
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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 Hulksmash wrote:This could go well. I'm slightly hopeful. Granted with the most recent changes being pretty much all to the good I'm more hopeful than I have been in a while.
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. 
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2016/03/17 21:59:27
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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> Larry Vela
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2016/03/17 22:00:35
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Larry Vela corroborated by independent sources.
Whole other animal.
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2016/03/17 22:02:56
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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If GW returns to the Tournie scene and updates their errata and FAQs... We could probably see the end of ITC
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2016/03/17 22:05:04
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Tactical_Spam wrote:If GW returns to the Tournie scene and updates their errata and FAQs... We could probably see the end of ITC
Kek. I hope Nova keeps going though.
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2016/03/17 22:10:18
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
Burbank, CA
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Not having a points system in AoS is what kept me from buying that game (and was effectively the last straw, getting me to stop buying anything GW altogether). If they can add a points system into AoS, and reboot the game with a better rules framework then it's currently running, I'd be more than happy to give the game a second look. I really thought 8th ed. was Warhammer fantasy perfected, but a (better) skirmish based game which uses all those figures would be amazing as well.
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2016/03/17 22:35:22
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Tactical_Spam wrote:If GW returns to the Tournie scene and updates their errata and FAQs... We could probably see the end of ITC
They would need to rework 40k from the bone in order to make it an acceptable game for organized play and official tournaments.
Either they release a total reboot in the form of a new edition, or it will be another episode of nice idea subpar execution.
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2016/03/17 22:48:14
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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5th was a broadly functional competitive set, 7th is essentially 5th laden down with a bunch of extraneous gak and wholesale removal of player agency.
It needs reworking, but perhaps not the root and branch reworking you think.
I'd be more inclined to think they'll go down the route of comping it to encourage playing it the "right" way though, with a lot of soft scores and penalties for spamming etc.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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2016/03/18 03:09:20
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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I would be much more excited by this news if either of GW's flagship games were still even remotely suitable for organised play.
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2016/03/18 04:58:11
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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I'll be watching this space. 8th ed 40k with great rules and regular FAQs.... We can dream.
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2016/03/18 05:42:25
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Gamgee wrote: EnTyme wrote: Gamgee wrote:I wonder if we will ever get another global campaign. As a new 40k fan I've never gotten a chance to participate in one. It would give me good reason to get into town no matter what and kick some ass in the name of the Greater Good.
I honestly expect the first wave of updates and campaigns to be AoS-related. As Sad Panda has said before: 2016 is the Year of Age of Sigmar as far as GW is concerned. 40k being the golden goose, we definitely won't be ignored completely, but I'm not expecting any FAQ/Errata/campaigns for us for quite some time.
Next year is likely our big 40k year then.
We got Genestealer Cults this year...pretty sure 2016 (and every other year) is 40k's year.
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2016/03/18 06:00:54
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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After the Betrayal of Calth & Deathwatch rules, I'm not hopeful that this will make tournament players happy. While they're slowly steering away from the iceberg, they'd have to do a major rules revisions (or throw tons of prize support) to keep it alive.
If it does lead them to rewriting the rules for better gameplay, I will give a hurrah.
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2016/03/18 06:14:35
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Los Angeles
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Can someone explain Organized play please?
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2016/03/18 07:57:40
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
Edmonton, Alberta
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2016/03/18 08:06:43
Subject: GW Returning to Organized Play?
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Bryan Ansell
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You know, I could go for a soft comped narrative event. If GW go this route with the existing 40k ruleset I may dip my toes back in (as will a few others of my ragedy decrepit old school crew).
I'll reserve judgement on how they handle things. We know how badly they could screw this up.
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