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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/19 02:05:11
Subject: [2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Hello, Dakka. I'm still on my list kick and stumbled across Corsairs, they looked interesting so I decided to look into it.
After reviewing their units I decided to make a list to try over the weekend.
So without further a do I present the list.
++CAD: Corsairs++
+HQ-(115)+
Corsair Prince (130) [Void Plate Harness, Shadow Field]
---Seeker of Forbidden Pleasures
-----Cloud Dancer [TL- Shuriken Catapult]
Corsair Void Dreamer (160) [Ghostplate Armour, ML 3, Shadow Field, Combat Drugs]
---[Dissonance Pistol, Venom Blade]
+Elites-(330)+
Corsair Voidstorm Band (165) [Haywire Grenades]
---5x Corsair Felarch [4xSplinter Rifle, 1x Blaster]
-----Corsair Venom [Void Burners, Splinter Cannon, Shuriken Cannon]
Corsair Voidstorm Band (165) [Haywire Grenades]
---5x Corsair Felarch [4xSplinter Rifle, 1x Blaster]
-----Corsair Venom [Void Burners, Splinter Cannon, Shuriken Cannon]
+Troops-(690)+
Corsair Cloud Dancer Band (115) [Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 3x Scatter Lasers]
Corsair Cloud Dancer Band (115) [Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 3x Scatter Lasers]
Corsair Cloud Dancer Band (115) [Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 3x Scatter Lasers]
Corsair Cloud Dancer Band (115) [Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 3x Scatter Lasers]
Corsair Cloud Dancer Band (115) [Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 3x Scatter Lasers]
Corsair Cloud Dancer Band (115) [Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 3x Scatter Lasers]
+Fast Attack-(510)+
Corsair Hornet Squadron (170) [Void Burners]
---[2x Hornets, 4x Pulse Lasers]
Corsair Hornet Squadron (170) [Void Burners]
---[2x Hornets, 4x Pulse Lasers]
Corsair Hornet Squadron (170) [Void Burners]
---[2x Hornets, 4x Pulse Lasers]
+Heavy Support-(680)+
Corsair Balestrike Band (235) [Heavy Mesh Armour, Corsair Combat Drugs, Haywire Grenades]
---[Felarch, 5x Shuriken Cannons]
-----Corsair Venom [Void Burners, Splinter Cannon, Shuriken Cannon]
Corsair Balestrike Band (210) [Heavy Mesh Armour, Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 5x Shuriken Cannons]
-----Corsair Venom [Void Burners, Splinter Cannon, Shuriken Cannon]
Corsair Balestrike Band (235) [Heavy Mesh Armour, Corsair Combat Drugs]
---[Felarch, 5x Dark Lances]
-----Corsair Venom [Void Burners, Splinter Cannon, Shuriken Cannon]
So the plan is to run the Cloud Dance Bands onto midfield objectives.
The rest will deploy and move around where need be.
I usually play against Necrons, Chaos, Space Marines, and Tau. I feel this list could beat them at 2500 points.
I can provide information on scenarios and what not if that helps. Any major weaknesses that need patching?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2016/03/22 16:43:12
<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/20 23:45:19
Subject: [2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Prince can't take splinter cannon, his only options are twin linked Rifles, Catapults, or lasblasters.
Why mix heavy weapons on the cloud dancers? Same thing goes for the Balestrikes. No hornets or for pulse lasers? Why not split the cloud dances into 6 squads since if you are forced to run on regular corsairs you are less likely to regroup.
Also why not run a voiddreamer with your felarchs? Aethermancy is a decent tree with the primaris being awesome for maneuvarability.
Also no transports?
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Nearly 3k+ points of Slaanesh (AoS)
2500 points of Ironjawz
Too many points of Space Marines. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 03:16:13
Subject: [2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Carnith wrote:Prince can't take splinter cannon, his only options are twin linked Rifles, Catapults, or lasblasters.
Why mix heavy weapons on the cloud dancers? Same thing goes for the Balestrikes. No hornets or for pulse lasers? Why not split the cloud dances into 6 squads since if you are forced to run on regular corsairs you are less likely to regroup.
Also why not run a voiddreamer with your felarchs? Aethermancy is a decent tree with the primaris being awesome for maneuvarability.
Also no transports?
The Splinter Cannon is for the Jetbike
the dissonance cannons have the rule that for every additional cannon you gain +1S and -1AP (Is that correct?) so 3 makes them AP1 and I think S8, the other guns are for added dakka.
I should free up some room for the Void Dreamer. And I figured the Void Storms and Balestrike go in the Vampire and get dropped where need be. The Balestrike and Dissonance cannons seem capable of popping armor. Maybe I should drop a Fire Storm and go for a Hornet?
Thanks for the feedback
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<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 21:40:08
Subject: [2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Prince cannot upgrade his jetbike. He only gets basic weapons. Check his profile. At the bottom his skyrunner can only have the basic weapons, otherwise it would say he could upgrade his skyrunner with the appropriate upgrades.
Dissonance cannons only get this on 6's to hit.
Also a hornet for 80 points gets 4 shots str 8 ap 2. Free up 10 points and get 2. Drop the firestorm and split up the balestrikes. You don't want huge squads with Corsairs as you will be forced to make leadership often then, and corsairs hate regrouping. It's like Orks, you don't want to be forced to regroup if possible, so give less chance of that happening.
Also whats your anti-tank, as Disonnance are not reliable. It would take 3 six's to make your three disonnace cannon's str 8 ap 1. Drop them for other heavy weapons or make a squad that goes tank hunting and give them Dark Lances, or make your Balestrikes go Tank hunting as 150 points for 5 jetpack dark lance weilding elves. Maybe only take one squad and take a fire prism? Str 9 lance is pretty good and has safety.
So recommendations: Get rid of Disonnace cannons, they aren't the cannons that eldar get on their artillary, focus them more on more shots with more Scatter lasers or Shuriken cannons, generally the rule is that each squad has a dedicated purpose.
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Nearly 3k+ points of Slaanesh (AoS)
2500 points of Ironjawz
Too many points of Space Marines. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 22:55:40
Subject: [2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Carnith wrote:Prince cannot upgrade his jetbike. He only gets basic weapons. Check his profile. At the bottom his skyrunner can only have the basic weapons, otherwise it would say he could upgrade his skyrunner with the appropriate upgrades.
Dissonance cannons only get this on 6's to hit.
Also a hornet for 80 points gets 4 shots str 8 ap 2. Free up 10 points and get 2. Drop the firestorm and split up the balestrikes. You don't want huge squads with Corsairs as you will be forced to make leadership often then, and corsairs hate regrouping. It's like Orks, you don't want to be forced to regroup if possible, so give less chance of that happening.
Also whats your anti-tank, as Disonnance are not reliable. It would take 3 six's to make your three disonnace cannon's str 8 ap 1. Drop them for other heavy weapons or make a squad that goes tank hunting and give them Dark Lances, or make your Balestrikes go Tank hunting as 150 points for 5 jetpack dark lance weilding elves. Maybe only take one squad and take a fire prism? Str 9 lance is pretty good and has safety.
So recommendations: Get rid of Disonnace cannons, they aren't the cannons that eldar get on their artillary, focus them more on more shots with more Scatter lasers or Shuriken cannons, generally the rule is that each squad has a dedicated purpose.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll start rebuilding the list Automatically Appended Next Post: Ok, so I removed the Vampire, reduced squad sizes, got rid of Dissonance Cannons, threw in Hornets.
Added the Void Dreamer
Kept the Firestorms though.
What else could be improved?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/03/22 02:44:07
<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 14:35:41
Subject: Re:[2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Enginseer with a Wrench
Fort Worth, Tx
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Love people starting to take corsairs. While I don't have any YET, I have some suggestions - I feel you're lacking in the anti-tank category for 2500 points. You have 2 blasters from the voidstorms, 2 units of hornets and that is basically it. I will say that if you face hordes or a battle company you will do fine as you have s6 in SPADES! With corsairs having access to haywire 'nades like crazy I might suggest giving the voidstorm squads those haywire 'nades. They will be closer due to the blasters close range, and that will synergize decently I think. I'm not sold on the firestorms either man. With those points I might bring more 1) hornets, 2) more balestrike w/dark lances this time and jetpacks 3) a baron (I thought you needed a baron for each coterie? or does your void dreamer fulfill that spot?)
My 2 cents man. When are you going to get some games in?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 16:30:07
Subject: Re:[2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Castellan Alaric wrote:Love people starting to take corsairs. While I don't have any YET, I have some suggestions - I feel you're lacking in the anti-tank category for 2500 points. You have 2 blasters from the voidstorms, 2 units of hornets and that is basically it. I will say that if you face hordes or a battle company you will do fine as you have s6 in SPADES! With corsairs having access to haywire 'nades like crazy I might suggest giving the voidstorm squads those haywire 'nades. They will be closer due to the blasters close range, and that will synergize decently I think. I'm not sold on the firestorms either man. With those points I might bring more 1) hornets, 2) more balestrike w/dark lances this time and jetpacks 3) a baron (I thought you needed a baron for each coterie? or does your void dreamer fulfill that spot?) My 2 cents man. When are you going to get some games in? Ok so, ditch the Fire Storms, More Balestrike, Haywire-nades on the Voidstorm, got it I have quite a few many games coming up this weekend, thanks for the feed back. UPDATE: got rid of the Fire Storms, added 2 more Hornets, gave 3 squads Haywire Grenades, Added a Dark Lance Balestrike band
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/03/22 16:44:24
<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 21:04:14
Subject: Re:[2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Castellan Alaric wrote:Love people starting to take corsairs. While I don't have any YET, I have some suggestions - I feel you're lacking in the anti-tank category for 2500 points. You have 2 blasters from the voidstorms, 2 units of hornets and that is basically it. I will say that if you face hordes or a battle company you will do fine as you have s6 in SPADES! With corsairs having access to haywire 'nades like crazy I might suggest giving the voidstorm squads those haywire 'nades. They will be closer due to the blasters close range, and that will synergize decently I think. I'm not sold on the firestorms either man. With those points I might bring more 1) hornets, 2) more balestrike w/dark lances this time and jetpacks 3) a baron (I thought you needed a baron for each coterie? or does your void dreamer fulfill that spot?)
My 2 cents man. When are you going to get some games in?
Excellent suggesstions, haywire grenades and without those darklances av14 is not gunna be fun to crack.
Also, he's running a Cad. Loses some benefits like the Cotorie specials but no baron taxes. The corsair list im building is gunna utilize a baron and prince on bikes with 3 felarches with venom swords that will take the rage upgrade. Squad of 5 keeps the numbers low enough that Rampage from the prince should work.
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Nearly 3k+ points of Slaanesh (AoS)
2500 points of Ironjawz
Too many points of Space Marines. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 13:23:01
Subject: Re:[2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Enginseer with a Wrench
Fort Worth, Tx
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I gotcha @carnith, I (if I ever pony up the $ to get some models) will probably go with the IwnD + FnP Prince 'upgrade' and utilize that FnP as much as I can. I love the idea of jetbikes and jetpacks for sure.
@Kharne you gotta post up how your games go! I'd love to see how the new rules play out!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 15:41:33
Subject: Re:[2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Castellan Alaric wrote:I gotcha @carnith, I (if I ever pony up the $ to get some models) will probably go with the IwnD + FnP Prince 'upgrade' and utilize that FnP as much as I can. I love the idea of jetbikes and jetpacks for sure.
@Kharne you gotta post up how your games go! I'd love to see how the new rules play out!
Definitely !
Should I post here or do you want me to PM you?
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<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 18:10:43
Subject: Re:[2500] - Corsairs - Test List
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Enginseer with a Wrench
Fort Worth, Tx
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Doesn't matter to me boss, either is fine. I'll probably see a PM more reliably with me being at work when I get on here lolz
Thanks!
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