Which current Codex is weakest

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**Unit1126PLL**

Sororitas, because they lack tools to deal with MC/GMC.

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ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:
Unit1126PLL wrote:
Sororitas, because they lack tools to deal with MC/GMC.

Really? spamming melta isn't a good enough way to bring down a MC? How about the ridiculous organ gun in the back field shooting D6 S8AP1 shots a turn? is that not enough ways to kill a MC or GMC?

Just as a reminder, the topic is which CODEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not codex with supplements and allies, im asking for the CODEX which is weakest BY ITSELF.

No, melta is an antitank gun. The way you kill MCs is high ROF. A meltagun is basically a gravgun with one shot, a short range, and sometimes wounds worse against certain targets (like Wraithknights).

And no, a tank that 50% of the time is about the same as a lascannon predator is not a good way to kill an MC or GMC. Unless you think the Predator Annihilator is a great way to kill MCs or GMCs...

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Lammikkovalas wrote:
coolguyswhositathome wrote:
I think that it is Battle Sisters who to my knowledge are still using a 4th edition codex.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Codex-Adepta-Sororitas-eBook-Edition

Nope.

They just haven't had any units added since fourth edition.

And in fact lost units when Inquisition split from them.

**Unit1126PLL**

It is worth noting that Sisters lose to the CSM dex because CSM have an AP3 template that IDs the sisters on a flying platform.

Sisters have no skyfire.

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Furyou Miko wrote:
Martel732 wrote:
Furyou Miko wrote:
Unit1126PLL wrote:Sororitas, because they lack tools to deal with MC/GMC.

No, they don't. What they lack is a delivery method for their excellent tool for dealing with MC/GMC.

Which is what?

4 WS4 S6AP1 attacks per 17 point model with Hatred.

Unit1126PLL wrote:It is worth noting that Sisters lose to the CSM dex because CSM have an AP3 template that IDs the sisters on a flying platform.

Sisters have no skyfire.

SoF still makes us better off against the Baledrake than Space Marines are.

I would trade SoF for access to 2+ armour on an HQ, some skyfire, and even just a formation or two.

And as for repentia....

...blegh. They are good if they hit their target, but no durability and no ability to assault out of transports means they just die in droves. They are literally less durable than guardsmen or orks, and are somehow expected to assault in this edition.

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Furyou Miko wrote:
I wouldn't trade SoF for any of those things... but I play with Forge World, so that might colour my opinion since Repressors and Avengers are all we need anyway. Oh, there's a laundry list of other things it would be nice to have, but when it comes to making a viable list, a flier and the best non-assault transport in the game pretty much have us covered.

Then again, playing Sisters might have something to do with my low opinion of the value of 2+ saves.

As for Repentia, you just described my original point: We lack delivery methods. Repentia hit like the Doom Train when they can hit, and a LR with Frag Launchers or a SR is perfect for them. But we don't get that kind of option.

Hence: we lack delivery methods.

I actually play with Forge World too, but to take a page from the Chaos players ITT: "It isn't in the codex so we can't use it."

Without a flier or Repressors, sisters are terribad.

**Unit1126PLL**

Furyou Miko wrote:
Unit1126PLL wrote:
I actually play with Forge World too, but to take a page from the Chaos players ITT: "It isn't in the codex so we can't use it."

Without a flier or Repressors, sisters are terribad.

I've seen some very effective FWF lists. They just use Immolators instead of Repressors and either ignore fliers or take an ADL with a canoness on it.

Sisters in Immolators are expensive Marines in Razorbacks since Marines can get free razors now.

And to take a page from Chaos players ITT about the ADL: "It isn't in the codex so we can't use it." I know this is an absurd rule, but it seems to be the standard we are using.