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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 09:26:17
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Fresh-Faced New User
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2000 point list with Chaos Daemons and Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Daemons
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (355pts)
Armour of Scorn (30pts), 2x D6 Greater Daemonic Reward (40pts), D6 Lesser Daemonic Reward (10pts), Daemon of Khorne, Great Axe of Khorne
Kairos Fateweaver (300pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, Warlord
Bloodletters of Khorne (125pts)
10x Bloodletters (100pts), Daemon of Khorne, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper (5pts)
Icon of Chaos (20pts)
Banner of Blood (10pts)
Bloodletters of Khorne (125pts)
10x Bloodletters (100pts), Daemon of Khorne, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper (5pts)
Icon of Chaos (20pts)
Banner of Blood (10pts)
Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (180pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, 20x Pink Horrors (180pts)
Daemon Prince - Heavy Support (370pts)
Daemon Prince of Tzeentch (370pts)
D6 Exalted Daemonic Reward (30pts), D6 Greater Daemonic Reward (20pts), Daemon of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight (40pts), Mastery 3 (75pts), Soul Bane (15pts), Warp-forged Armour (20pts)
Chaos Space Marines
Sorcerer (325pts)
2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Aura of dark glory (15pts), Burning Brand of Skalanthrax (30pts), Combat familiar (15pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Frag Grenades, Gift of mutation (10pts), Ichor blood (5pts), Krak Grenades, Mark of Tzeentch (15pts), Melta bombs (5pts), Scrolls of Magnus (45pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Veterans of the Long War (5pts), Warlord
Cultist Champion (14pts)
Auto Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
9x Cultists (36pts)
9x Close Combat Weapons
Heldrake (170pts)
Baleflamer
Help would be much appreciated so please comment!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 09:47:38
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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For competitiveness change Sorcerer for Belakor, Bloodletters for pink horrors.
Also afaik a model may not have more than one Hellforged artifact so if you have SoulBane on your DP you can't swap Exalted reward for Grimoire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 10:03:45
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thank you so much for the advice l will do so, btw what do you think of soulgrinder?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 10:12:44
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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Nurgle soulgrinder with Phlegm, or Slaanesh soulgrinder with Baleful Torrent are common loadouts, if you want them take 2 or 3 with same upgrades.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 17:58:43
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Does the Sigil of Corruption not make the Aura of Dark Glory redundant? Correct me if I'm wrong but i seem to remember the
Sigil gives a 4++ while the Aura only gives a 5++? Don't see the point in having both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 21:12:10
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I will be using Be'Lakor instead of sorcerer but good catch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/24 05:10:34
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Repentia Mistress
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Why not do both?
Curse of the Wulfen lets you take Belakor as a HQ in daemons.
Lvl 3 sorc with a familiar, p axe, bike, nurgle beasts and skalathrax is really scary strong.
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hey what time is it?
"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/24 10:08:51
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Agile Revenant Titan
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The sorcerer can't be the warlord either. The warlord must be in your primary detachment, allied detachments are forbidden from being primary. Just a heads up.
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/24 12:25:52
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Are you limited by models?
waterduck wrote:
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (355pts)
Armour of Scorn (30pts), 2x D6 Greater Daemonic Reward (40pts), D6 Lesser Daemonic Reward (10pts), Daemon of Khorne, Great Axe of Khorne
Kairos Fateweaver (300pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, Warlord
Solid
waterduck wrote:Bloodletters of Khorne (125pts)
10x Bloodletters (100pts), Daemon of Khorne, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper (5pts)
Icon of Chaos (20pts)
Banner of Blood (10pts)
Bloodletters of Khorne (125pts)
10x Bloodletters (100pts), Daemon of Khorne, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper (5pts)
Icon of Chaos (20pts)
Banner of Blood (10pts)
Are you taking these because you have the models? I usually save these for my summons.
They are good for threatening MEQ. They are also good because I have the models and they are painted.
waterduck wrote:Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (180pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, 20x Pink Horrors (180pts)
16 will do the job just fine if you are looking to trim points.
waterduck wrote:Daemon Prince - Heavy Support (370pts)
Daemon Prince of Tzeentch (370pts)
D6 Exalted Daemonic Reward (30pts), D6 Greater Daemonic Reward (20pts), Daemon of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight (40pts), Mastery 3 (75pts), Soul Bane (15pts), Warp-forged Armour (20pts)
The best way to take princes is with the Tetrad, but if you want to take a prince, this is the way to do it.
* You cannot take two hellforged artifacts, so the exalted reward cannot grant you a portalgyph if you take the soul bane
* The Impossible Robe or Paradox are much better rewards. Personally I really like to roll with The Impossible Robe. It will also save you 20 points in warp forged armor
* You should take 2 greater rewards and one minor rewards. The minor reward use for a 'staff of change' to give yourself +2 STR on your prince. The greater rewards make you much beefier.
waterduck wrote:Sorcerer (325pts)
2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Aura of dark glory (15pts), Burning Brand of Skalanthrax (30pts), Combat familiar (15pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Frag Grenades, Gift of mutation (10pts), Ichor blood (5pts), Krak Grenades, Mark of Tzeentch (15pts), Melta bombs (5pts), Scrolls of Magnus (45pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Veterans of the Long War (5pts), Warlord
Cultist Champion (14pts)
Auto Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
9x Cultists (36pts)
9x Close Combat Weapons
Heldrake (170pts)
Baleflamer
The sorcerer is way to expensive here. I get you wanting to have a helldrake, as they are fantastic -- but you really need to trim down that sorcerer. For that cost, just take another daemon prince.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/24 22:07:00
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Sorry l'm kinda new but how does summoning work?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/25 05:31:25
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Spawn of Chaos
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waterduck wrote: Sorcerer (325pts) 2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Aura of dark glory (15pts), Burning Brand of Skalanthrax (30pts), Combat familiar (15pts), Daemonheart (30pts), Frag Grenades, Gift of mutation (10pts), Ichor blood (5pts), Krak Grenades, Mark of Tzeentch (15pts), Melta bombs (5pts), Scrolls of Magnus (45pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Veterans of the Long War (5pts), Warlord Honestly this guy is just bloated, you look like you just took every available option. You wouldn't be able to take the Daemonheart. That's only available if you're using the Crimson Slaughter supplement, in which case you wouldn't be able to take the BBoS of SoM, as well as VotLW. You also have an Aura of Dark Glory AND a Sigil of Corruption, giving you a 5++ and a 4++? Drop the Daemonheart and go with Terminator Armor for that 2++ (since you seem to be using Vanilla CSM), and Drop the BBoS, as that's better with fast moving HQs. Icor of Blood is alos not recommended, as you only have 2 wounds and shouldn't be in CC much anyhow, same with the Meltabombs and Combat Familiar. Or just use Arhiman, mind bullets for days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/25 20:35:56
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Fresh-Faced New User
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you look like you just took every available option.
Haha yea pretty much. But to be fair a friend of mine recommend me that build
Maybe I can go something like this
Chaos Daemons
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (355pts)
Armour of Scorn (30pts), 2x D6 Greater Daemonic Reward (40pts), D6 Lesser Daemonic Reward (10pts), Daemon of Khorne, Great Axe of Khorne
Kairos Fateweaver (300pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, Warlord
Bloodletters of Khorne (125pts)
10x Bloodletters (100pts), Daemon of Khorne, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper (5pts)
Bloodletters of Khorne (125pts)
10x Bloodletters (100pts), Daemon of Khorne, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper (5pts)
Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (149pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, 16x Pink Horrors (144pts), Upgrade one Pink Horror to Iridescent Horror (5pts)
Daemon Prince of Tzeentch (380pts)
2x D6 Greater Daemonic Reward (40pts), D6 Lesser Daemonic Reward (10pts), Daemon of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight (40pts), Mastery 3 (75pts), The Impossible Robe (25pts), Warp-forged Armour (20pts)
Chaos Space Marines
Be'lakor, The Dark Master (350pts)
Blade of Torment
Cultist Champion (14pts)
Auto Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
Champion of Chaos
9x Cultists (36pts)
9x Close Combat Weapons
Heldrake (170pts)
Baleflamer
Sorry l made so many mistakes in my last list like with the sorcerer also can anyone explain to me how summoning works? Thank you for your feedback
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/27 22:16:32
Subject: [2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Spawn of Chaos
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For summoning, you generate powers from the "Malfic Daemonology" discipline, four of which (Primaris and three others) summon daemons. However, unless you have the daemon special rule you perils on any double.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/28 11:23:24
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos Daemon with CSM - Need help making list better/good
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ok thanks for the help. I will probably stick to the 20 bloodletters so that I have troops to protect my pink horrors and fight while I look to summon more.
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