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Made in us
Hellacious Havoc





I play Iron Warriors and I just realized I can double my CAD. I know this army will probably not do well at all, but it'll be fun to have so much heavy hitting fire power in one turn

CAD 1

HQ
DP (Wings, PA, MoT, Black Mace) 265


Troops
Cultists x10 (autoguns) 60
Cultists x10 50


Fast Attack
Heldrake (baleflamer) 170


HW
Obliterators x3 210
Predator (Autocannon, Sponson Lascannons, Havoc Launcher) 127
Predator (Autocannon, Sponson Lascannons, Havoc Launcher) 127



CAD 2
HQ
Warpsmith 110


Troops
Cultists x10 (autoguns) 60
Cultists x10 50


HW
Predator (Autocannon, Sponson Lascannons, CombiBolter) 120
Predator (Lascannon, Sponson Lascannons, CombiBolter) 145






Brings me to 1494 points, if my opponent does decide to up the game to 2000 points or 1850, I would probably through in a squad of Chosen with 5 plasma guns and rhino and maybe 4 havocs with lascannons or missile launchers. I know this army will not be winning any tournaments, but I feel like it could be fun to have a bunch of tanks on the board and deep strike my oblits while vector striking with the heldrake and getting in close with the black mace.

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Spawn of Chaos





Drop the MoT and pick up the MoN (2+ Jink save) instead. For your second CAD use Crimson Slaughter for 1) Fear on everything (because why not?) and if you do wind up picking up the Chosen, for 10 pts more they can be upgraded to Ravagers, giving their Champion Preferred Enemy (Everything), bestowing it to the squad so long as he's alive.
   
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Dakka Veteran






Consider Black Legion for one of your CADs (the one without the Oblitz so you don't get votlw tax) and give your Daemon Prince the eternal warrior relic and also Nurgle as mentioned.

Your points on the predators seem off by the way.
   
Made in us
Hellacious Havoc





I had forgotten to modify the last two predators, they are now correct.

Is Black Legion worth using for my army for a single relic? I guess it would also allow me to take chosen as troops so that if I do play a higher point game, I can take my 5 plasma marines. Is there any other bonus to it? I do not have the book and would probably buy it if it's considered worth it
   
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Dakka Veteran






Black Legoon isn't worth it for chosen troops due to the veteran tax making them even more expensive.

The only bonus would be making your solo daemon prince eternal warrior.

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Servoarm Flailing Magos





Alaska

He would lose access to the Black Mace though, so it's a trade off. Honestly I don't even use DPs in CSM lists because they are way overpriced for what they do, in my opinion. Everything they can do, you are better served by allying in Chaos Daemons (who can do it cheaper and more effectively). For example, your DP here costs only a few points less than a Bloodthirster with the D-strength weapon, which I would much rather have than the DP for the price.

Since you are playing Iron Warriors though, and are sticking to the fluff, I'd say you are definitely just going to have to suffer with some gimped lists.

A few minor suggestions would be to try to cram MoN on your oblits, to help make it harder to double out their toughness. I'd drop the havoc launchers on the Preds, as it seems like you'd have conflicting target priority with them. Lascannon sponsons with the Autocannon main is more suited to stripping hull points off vehicles, whereas the Havoc is too weak to bother with vehicles, making your targeting priority an issue. I'd rather upgrade the turret on one of them to another TL Lascannon for the points of those two launchers, and make them even more effective at killing vehicles.

That's just how I would go about it, take it with a grain of salt

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Hellacious Havoc





I put on havocs incase I need to take out some troops, but I could easily swap them out another tl lascannon, I could also drop the auto guns on the cultists to give my oblits MoN, it's not like the cultists will do much beside secure objectives anyways
   
 
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