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2 Similar Lists. I have gotten good hints from you guys for a Tau nub like me. I like the Culexus, but I am worried about sacrificing the D-missiles.:

WITHOUT CULEXUS
- - - - CAD - - - - - - - - -
- Ethereal
- 5 Firewarriors
- 5 Firewarriors
- Stormsurge [Intrcpt, PlsDrvrCan, Flamer, 4++]
- Stormsurge [Intrcpt, PlsDrvrCan, Flamer, 4++]
- - - - Drone Net - - - - -
- 4 Marker Drones
- 4 Marker Drones
- 4 Marker Drones
- 4 Marker Drones
- - - Riptide Wing - - -
- RipTide [HvyBrstCan, SMS, Intrcpt, FNP]
- RipTide [HvyBrstCan, SMS, Intrcpt, FNP]
- RipTide [HvyBrstCan, SMS, Intrcpt]


WITH CULEXUS
- - - - CAD - - - - - - - - -
- Ethereal
- 5 Firewarriors
- 5 Firewarriors
- 4 Marker Drones
- 4 Marker Drones
- Stormsurge [Intrcpt, PlsDrvrCan, Flamer, 4++]
- Stormsurge [Intrcpt, PlsDrvrCan, Flamer, 4++]
- - - Riptide Wing - - -
- RipTide [HvyBrstCan, SMS, Intrcpt, FNP]
- RipTide [HvyBrstCan, SMS, Intrcpt, FNP]
- RipTide [HvyBrstCan, SMS, Intrcpt]
- - - - Assassinorum - - - -
- Culexus Assassin

Why flamers on the storm surge it can't over watch

Cheap. It's that or give up intercept.


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already had to give up FNP on one of the Burst Tides (both lists)

 doktor_g wrote:
Cheap. It's that or give up intercept.


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already had to give up FNP on one of the Burst Tides (both lists)

I hope this does not seem being snide,

but why not just run Frankie's list? You're almost there. I saw it in action at Game Empire, going full points for all 3 Rounds of an RTT. Stims on the Rips, and a Irid Armored-MarkerD baby-sitter.

Is your local scene/meta really heavy on Psy armies?

Not snide. He's a pro, Im not. Im not a real competitive type.

The culexus is inspired by my ignorance of psychic shenanigans. I play orks mainly, and my meta (all five of us) is light on psychics. Everytime I play in a tourney, Im instantly on the back foot vs Eldar, Tzeentch, Conclave, Etc. I wanted the rock to their scissors.

I want the ethereal for further Ld buffs and cheap FNP. If i had the points Id take aunva. This will be the first iteration for my playtesting.

Finally, although I do get inspiration from the internet for lists, I dont really end up liking the list and tweak it in some way. I know FGs list is 2 surges abd Rt Wing... but thats all I know anout it. IM really just "fighting the last war" trying to figure out how to counter all those warp spiders while still being able to test in my meta. Those SMS seem to be the best way to go. That plus shooting twice with ripplefire... oh son.... Then our best player tinkers w Eldar Dspam with DE allies. It pisses me off I cant beat him with orks. So im dusting off the tau. Have an assembked and painted surge Ive never even fielded. Anyhoo. Rambling... sorry

The 2 units of marker drones in your culexus list aren't going to do anything with their BS 2.

Hrmpfh. Probably right.

 doktor_g wrote:
I know FGs list is 2 surges abd Rt Wing... but thats all I know anout it.

Frankie's list:

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/03/21/frankies-tournament-tau-perfect-score-at-ge-rtt/

Cmdr - Irid Armor, Drone Controller, 2 MarkerDs

5 FWs
5 FWs

MarkerD unit, 6 frisbees

x2 StormSurge : Burst Cannon, Pulse Driver Cannon, Early Warning Override, Shield Generator, Precision x1

Riptide wing - Burst Cans, Stims, EWO

 doktor_g wrote:
IM really just "fighting the last war" trying to figure out how to counter all those warp spiders while still being able to test in my meta.

If you go back to orks, just be sure to never shoot the spiders, just assault, assault assault. I am playing the spider spam, and first test was against orks. Nobs with claws vaporized several units, but I won in the end because I had more bodies and mobility.

I worry most about nasty h2h that will wipe out whole units. If your opponents are running 5 guy squads of spiders your orks are in good shape to paste them. My ork opponent was having trouble nailing large units of 7 or 8 spiders, who would have 2 or 3 survivors of the assault Hit and Run away ... and they'd continue winning Maelstrom and the End-Mission objectives (crusdae or Emp's Will, I forget).

I just think Tau, being shooty, are the least Paper to the spiders' Rock, especially if your tables have a good amount of LoS blocked terrain.

I think the Drone net is better, TBH, because you will need Markers for the surges. W/O markers their shooting becomes just "good"

@LValx: yeah.... think thats the consensus even without the voting.

@Brothererkose: it seems that meganobz will never (rarely) be able to get into CQB with the spyders. For the three reasons of getting their ride wrecked, cant assault what they cant see, and cant run. Also...sounds like you still beat him/her. Regarding Tau, the SMS doesnt need LOS to hit the spyders. If the RipTides use their special shooting thing with ripple fire thats 64x Str5 AP5 Twin Linked Shots raining down from up to 30" on the spyders not requiring line of site. Seems pretty rock to scissors to me, but im not sure on the range of their spyders guns. All that said, its theory hammer whereas you have the experience.... so we'll see. Going to BAO? Cant bring myself to bring orks again. Although I dont want to buy/paint any new models, at least it will only be a Stormsurge and a riptide.

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