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HQ

Dark Apostle with MoT 120pts

Troops

Cultists 30 with 3 flamers 145 pts

Cultists 30 with 2 flamers 140 pts

Cultists 30 with 2 flamers 140 pts

Fast Attack

Heldrake Baleflamer 170 pts

Heldrake Baleflamer 170 pts

Heldrake Baleflamer 170 pts

Heavy Support

Land Raider 230 pts

Obliterator 3 210 pts

Obliterator 3 210 pts

Leaves me with 145 points remaining, any suggestions? Tactics for this list include; using the LR as a flashy target for my opponent, it will soak up some damage while my cultists slug towards objectives, oblits will hopefully come in turn 2 or 3 via DS (semi close together) to secure an edge of the board while my heldrakes come in and run interference on any armored targets that would be untouchable by the cultists.

with the remaining points I was thinking of taking the dimensional key to help my oblits with DS or taking some additional troops/dare I say it, terminators to help take care of more heavily armed targets

What do you guys think of this?

1st get a Chaos Knight and make it Khorn or Tzeech for your LoW spot, then build the list from there. CSM are bottom teir for tournies, KDK might be teir 2.

I'd cut a Heldrake to add a group of Nurgle Bikers for some quick anti heavy-infantry.
Maybe even cut two of them and add 10 Slaanesh bikers with Feel No Pain.

Who is going in the land raider?

 FeindusMaximus wrote:
1st get a Chaos Knight and make it Khorn or Tzeech for your LoW spot, then build the list from there. CSM are bottom teir for tournies, KDK might be teir 2.

Gotta ask, why khorne or tzeentch? I have my own chaos knight.

Land raider isn't for anyone yet, was thinking of putting the remaining points in them, but at the same time, it's really only there as a sponge during the first shooting phase until the turkies come on. I could put 3 bikers in the LR, could be a funky combo, but I really dislike bikes as they have never worked out for me in the past

Non infantry can't embark a vehicle.

A raider is waay too expensive to be just a distraction.

I was under the impression they could since they are given the bulky rule, but that would make sense that you couldn't do that.... aside from that I don't know what else I could put down during deployment to keep my opponent from ripping apart my cultists. I guess I could give them all MoT so they have some sort of save no matter what but without something to take fire, they will all die very quickly

.. You want them to take the fire, they are cultists ! Wasting anti tank fire on cultists is ideal! MoT is a waste, just make sure they are in cover. An aegis line might help you out. Take the points saved by not having a land raider and take a Knight.

The thing is, is that I have had better luck with blob ccw cultists assaulting squads than I have had with CSM or auto gun cultists holding objectives or running around. I want my cultists to bog down enemy units in CC as opposed to being shot up by rapid fire. The LR would help to get them into CC with my opponent without relying on a single squad and is able to do some damage to vehicles with the TL lascannons

Can some one remind him the popular invisible and grimored chaos knight i was opposed to?

Are there ways to convert the landraider into a typhon would have been my suggestion but you already have the knight.

^^don't know if that was for me, but I don't own a knight and done know if I care to. I haven't heard about the options to give it the buffs you mentioned but I have also heard they are easy to take down.


I do have a warhound though so I could work with that....

Sorry, I ment that to the other posters who argued that I aas wrong to prefer the Typhon heavy siege tank over a Chaos Knight on the principles of having to spend an equal amount of points to buff it.

Having 3 drakes seems like a liability in this list. Some possible options that might fit your unit theme, outside of what has already been mentioned:

~Add a squad of termies (you can go barebones, but add combi-meltas), then move the Land Raider over as a transport for said termies. You can then break your Oblits down into three squads of 2 Oblits. I would keep the option of deepstriking the termies, and just use the Land Raider as a [read as 'expensive'] mobile gun platform/shield.

~Drop a drake. Possible replacement options: a) Huron for guaranteed Infiltrate and to bolster up a blob of cultists; b) Drop down to two cultist squads, then add in a Helcult formation. That way, you can still run your blobs, but they are fearless. Plus, you get a bit of additional firepower.

I might take a typhon tank... I could easily convert my LR to one

If you do take a typhon take ceramite armor and a legacy that gives you d3 vp if it survives but it gives those vp to enemy if it pops.

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You make the LR sound even more appealing to me, as having TL lascannons is a huge bonus for things such as taking down heavily armed models.

I have yet to face a knight so I do not have any personal experience with what works for taking one down, but I assume I can lock it in combat with some cultists or my apostle. Kharn could be an interesting choice, I would have to buy the model, but that is not too steep of a price tag.

Rhinos with melta teams have never earned back their points for me and are usually kept at an arms length by my opponent or subject to hit and run tactics by tau suits.