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'lo there!

Some people may have seen me asking around a bit about making a 30k army and I came to a conclusion, I wanted to know what people thought. I want to do a loyalist shattered legion army led by a Word Bearers herald with the banner of the aquilla. The idea is that the core tactical squads are made of Word Bearers legionaries who've started a counter crusade against the traitor forces, retaining their zealous loyalty to the Emperor (Like the word bearer in "The Unremembered Empire").

The idea is that his crusade gained momentum, picking up survivors from the Istvaan betrayal and turning what was at first just a Herald and his relatively small group legionaries and a few tanks into a strong patchwork army consisting of Istvaan Salamanders and Iron Hands survivors, using the rite of war "Survivors of Istvaan", these all being veterans and elite units that were tough enough to survive.

Just looking for pointers,

Best regards, Thetallestgiraffe.

the idea is neat, however there are quite a few rules flaws to this idea: namely the fact that heralds are support officers (I may be wrong) and the limitations of the survivors of Istvaan RoW.

 Brennonjw wrote:
the idea is neat, however there are quite a few rules flaws to this idea: namely the fact that heralds are support officers (I may be wrong) and the limitations of the survivors of Istvaan RoW.

I was a bit unsure of this but I think I figured out how to work it. The only clause that the Herald is still Warlord and holds Master of the legion but can't be the compulsory HQ but , something I'll fill with a Salamanders Termie Preator which I already need to take pyroclasts and/or firedrakes. The After Istvaan rite only requires that I have said preator or a centurion.

The one thing I was unsure of was if it is allowable to use any of the centurion upgrades in place of the centurion?

 thetallestgiraffe wrote:

 Brennonjw wrote:
the idea is neat, however there are quite a few rules flaws to this idea: namely the fact that heralds are support officers (I may be wrong) and the limitations of the survivors of Istvaan RoW.

I was a bit unsure of this but I think I figured out how to work it. The only clause that the Herald is still Warlord and holds Master of the legion but can't be the compulsory HQ but , something I'll fill with a Salamanders Termie Preator which I already need to take pyroclasts and/or firedrakes. The After Istvaan rite only requires that I have said preator or a centurion.

The one thing I was unsure of was if it is allowable to use any of the centurion upgrades in place of the centurion?

any centurion upgrade should work fine for the needed centurion (I doubt support officer will be an issue so long as you have at least 1 "standard" HQ model)

 thetallestgiraffe wrote:
The idea is that his crusade gained momentum, picking up survivors from the Istvaan betrayal and turning what was at first just a Herald and his relatively small group legionaries and a few tanks into a strong patchwork army consisting of Istvaan Salamanders and Iron Hands survivors, using the rite of war "Survivors of Istvaan", these all being veterans and elite units that were tough enough to survive.

You dare forget the third group of survivors on Istvaan, the Raven Guard?!

 Freytag93 wrote:

 thetallestgiraffe wrote:
The idea is that his crusade gained momentum, picking up survivors from the Istvaan betrayal and turning what was at first just a Herald and his relatively small group legionaries and a few tanks into a strong patchwork army consisting of Istvaan Salamanders and Iron Hands survivors, using the rite of war "Survivors of Istvaan", these all being veterans and elite units that were tough enough to survive.

You dare forget the third group of survivors on Istvaan, the Raven Guard?!

Pah, damn emos, no-one bothers to remember them . But nah, I was thinking that at first it would make sense to have some scouty and jump units but instead decided that if I was trying to make more of a crusader force it would make more sense to have iron hands. They can contribute more in the way of armoured support, and with Ferrus dead and their general zealously about things would fit more in a semi-religious crusade, really buying into the Word Bearers rhetoric.