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Made in us
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba






My local group is planning on holding a doubles tournament, and I am looking for a starting list while we look for partners. I have access to many Harlequin, Dark Eldar and Eldar units (less of the latter two, they're usually supportive allies) and this is where I'm starting.

Detachment 1: Harlequin Formation "Cegorach's Jest"

Benefit: After turn 2, units from this formation may run and charge in the same turn.

-Harlequin Troupe with 5x Harlequin's Kiss, Dedicated Transport Starweaver
-2x Skyweaver Jetbikes with Zephyrglaives and Shuriken Cannons
-1x Voidweaver with Prismatic Cannon

Detachment 2: Harlequin Formation "The Heroes' Path"

Benefit: Stealth, Shrouded, Infiltrate. Models from this formation may never join other units, even though they are independent characters.

-Solitaire with Haywire Grenades
-Shadowseer with Mask of Secrets
-Death Jester

Detachment 3: Eldar Allied Detachment

HQ: Farseer with Witchblade and Skyrunner Jetbike
Troops: 3x Scatterlaser Windriders
Fast Attack: 5x Warp Spiders, Exarch W/Powerblades

I'll be hoping to pair with a mobile, short range or melee-focused teammate, hopefully with psychic support. All armies will be treated as a single army (so one warlord, combined psychic pool) and armies from partners will be treated as Allies of Convenience. Mission will most likely be Maelstrom of War, or slightly modified maelstrom.

I guess my biggest questions are surrounding the Eldar, which I have relatively small experience with. The detachment is a pretty clear no-brainer, but I'm wondering if I'm missing anything obvious on the Farseer in terms of value upgrades, and whether or not the Exarch from the WS is worthwhile.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
Made in ca
Swift Swooping Hawk





This is just my humble opinion but I would switch the Farseer for an Autrach on jetbike with a Banshee mask and Laser Lance. Put him with your Skyweavers and enjoy wrecking face without suffering overwatch.

Not eating overwatch is a godsend vs the Tau or Dark Angels.

In different words:
For a close-combat army, overwatch is a problem, a bigger problem than what a Farseer brings to the table to help you.

Just a thought
   
Made in us
War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire




I think the Farseer is fine, but definitely prefer a singing spear - it's 5 pts for a S9 weapon, great for wrecking vehicle face. Not totally sold on the prismatic cannon (vs haywire) on Voidweavers, though.

An interesting alternative might be to bring a warlock conclave on bike instead of Farseer, toss it in the Skyweavers, and use its protective powers to buffer them so they get into melee. No idea if it'll work, but just a thought.
   
Made in us
Enginseer with a Wrench




Fort Worth, Tx

I like it, but if your shadowseer is only lvl 1 you won't be getting veil of tears off reliably, and you NEED that. I would go with morkai's suggestion of dropping the farseer for a beatstick autarch to roll with the skyweavers, that'll be a monster unit at 1000. Especially without having to take overwatch. Please, please, please find the points to give your solitaire Cegorach's Rose. He gets shred and master crafted on his kiss and will be MONEY for you. With infiltrate he will be close and being able to move 12" a turn will get him EXACTLY where you need him.

What is your teammate playing?

XIX Legion - 3500 points 
   
Made in us
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba






I don't need tears on a PoH ss, she has a 2+ cover save in any cover. She's mostly for shrieking.

The reason for the farseer over the Autarch (which is what I usually bring) is I want extra psychic dice, and for 3 mls the farseer is quite a steal. With just one die, the SS can't do much and I can't add other seers. Eldar psychic powers are quite nice as well, or I could always just rock more telepathy. The other reason is I get nothing from path of command, as I have no reserves in this list where usually I bring in deep strikers and a flyer.

Trouble with some of these options is my models themselves. I have a sword in the hand of my bike Eldar HQ, so I was going with the blade to keep him wysiwyg. Same with the prism cannon. The spear is a great idea though. Maybe I'll look at some magnet shenanigans. Are the farseer rune upgrades worthwhile?

My teammate isn't yet finalized, it may be a guy playing coven DE, so we'll have that freakshow goodness going down.

Does Cegorachs Rose really do much for the points? If I use the shred attacks I lose the touch of death from the Harlequin's Bad Touch, don't I?

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
Made in us
Enginseer with a Wrench




Fort Worth, Tx

Well is you roll your KoD attack and don't wound shred works there as well, plus when the regular attacks come in you'll get to reroll those if you don't wound. I think it's rad man, but in the end it's up to you. If you want more reliable vehicle killing then haywire is the way to go.

XIX Legion - 3500 points 
   
Made in us
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba






You do reroll kiss of deaths. More my point is, I am not convinced the shred basic attacks outweigh the power of the 1 AP2 auto-wound he gets standard with his caress.


"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
 
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