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So, in the chaos daemons codex their powers were a little different. 1 primary and 3 powers for a total of 4. There is a restriction in the codex that you could only roll up to half your powers (rounding up) on the chart that correspondes to their patron God.

Now to me this made sense. It meant that you couldn't simply take a lvl 3 psyker and guarantee you get every power from that discipline. However, the tables in the chaos daemon codex have been overwritten by the powers in the curse of the wulfen book. They now have a primary plus 6 different powers per God to bring them in to line with every other discipline.

My question is, if using the new disciplines, are you still restricted by the codex and therefor can only select half your powers from their specific discipline, or is that restriction now removed?

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It's not clearly stated. There is text that says basically the rules provided in the Curse of the Wulfen book supplement or replace the ones in the daemon codex, but no actual guidance on which it does in the case of the psychic powers.

The exisitence of Endless Grimoire strongly suggests they intended it to be removed. I think that is how most people are playing it, but this is one you really have to work out with your opponentor the tournament you are playing in.

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A hotly debated topic. It's incredibly, stupidly vague as it doesn't say one way or the other, and there is an argument for boty sides. Personally I'll be playing them the same either way when I run the Tetrad, with half slaanesh/half biomancy on the slaanesh prince.

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Ignore this post. Don't know why it posted.

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Just check with your TO. For friendly games just ask your opponent.

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 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
So, in the chaos daemons codex their powers were a little different. 1 primary and 3 powers for a total of 4. There is a restriction in the codex that you could only roll up to half your powers (rounding up) on the chart that correspondes to their patron God.

Now to me this made sense. It meant that you couldn't simply take a lvl 3 psyker and guarantee you get every power from that discipline. However, the tables in the chaos daemon codex have been overwritten by the powers in the curse of the wulfen book. They now have a primary plus 6 different powers per God to bring them in to line with every other discipline.

My question is, if using the new disciplines, are you still restricted by the codex and therefor can only select half your powers from their specific discipline, or is that restriction now removed?

It makes sense to me that the new powers from CotW completely replace the entire page of powers from the Codex (including the bit about rolling only half the powers) However, I cannot fully support that RAW, since the rules say "supplement OR replace". Which is it GW?

   
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We have no idea why we aren't allowed to fully roll on a chaos discipline, why would we change that?

hey what time is it?

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this was asked in that big GW FAQ post so someday we may see

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You have a rule that requires you to have rolled all of your powers from the change discipline. This obviously implies that you can actually do so

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This is actually not true. It is possible to roll all your powers from the Discipline of Change yet still follow the Daemon rules of rolling no more than half your powers rounded up on the Discipline of Change table. All Mastery Level 1 Psykers can have that one power (half rounded up) on the Discipline of Change, which leads to all that Psyker's powers winding up on the Discpline of Change without breaking the rule from the core book. What isn't covered clearly is whether the Psykers with ML2+ can roll all their powers on the new Discipline of Change or not. RAI seems obvious, but technically RAW doesn't allow it.
   
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 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
There is a restriction in the codex that you could only roll up to half your powers (rounding up) on the chart that correspondes to their patron God.


What the How have I missed this for so long?
Of course, those powers are all so crappy compared to Biomancy on Princes and Divination on Tzeentch that I've never wanted to roll everything on Chaos tables.....

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