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-anything different from 40k?

-points any different?

-what allies do I need to bring if any?

There's some special characters you can use, like the Daemon Princes of the Ruinstorm. As far as I am aware, they can only ally with Word Bearers, and I *think* you can only take Daemons in 30k as allies alongside a primary det of Word Bearers. I might be wrong on that one.

They are all the same but you will need either Cor'bax or Samus to be you warlord in order to unlock daemons as your primary force(not sure on that point, correct me if I'm wrong). The rules are still kind of weird cause there are no "chaos daemon" army in the ally matrix so I don't really know if you can have an allied detachment with a daemon army as primary in 30K.

Apart from that, you can use daemons as allies for Word Bearers with Zardu Layak as your warlord or with the Dark Brethren ROW or you can ally them with the militia with the cult horde or tainted flesh provenance.

Conerning their rules they are the same except that you have to apply the 30K rules concerning the troops as securing units and the rest as denial.

They don't have rules for a primary detachment of daemons yet (that Ive seen ) corbax and samus can join one tho, so let's assume it exist.

The age of darkness detachment has 3 hq, which is handy. And 4 elites.

Here arfe the free dataslates for Samus and Corbax:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Downloads#horusheresy

Implicit in the Lord of the Ruinstorm rule is that you can use Chaos Daemons as your primary Age of Darkness detachment, with or without Samus and/or Corbax.

Both Samus and Cor'bax have the following rule:

Lord of the Ruinstorm
If Samus is selected in an army which uses Codex: Chaos Daemons as its Primary Detachment in Age of Darkness games, Samus may be counted as a HQ choice rather than as a Lords of War choice. If this is the case, then Samus must be the army’s Warlord and has the following
Warlord trait rather than rolling to determine a trait.

And, both Samus and Cor'bax have the following note:

Cor ’bax Utterblight, Daemon Prince of the Ruinstorm, may be chosen as a Lords of War choice for the following armies in Age of Darkness games: Word Bearers Legiones Astartes and Codex: Chaos Daemons (see also the Lord of the Ruinstorm special rule)

Go for it, OP!

TO answer your specific questions:

 Scorpionov wrote:
-anything different from 40k? Me: You'd have to use the Age of Darkness FOC (or another HH FOC), rather than the 40k FOC, and there's no Unbound in HH games.

-points any different? Me: Nope. Just use the Chaos Daemon codex.

-what allies do I need to bring if any? Me: None, but you can ally with Word Bearers if you like

Jasper is on the money, however I would like to point out that they can also be battle brothers with a certain militia build as well.

Demons can also ally with milita if the took warp cult.

Just be aware that Malefic Demonology is only available to Psykers that specifically have it listed in their entry*, Librarians with the Legiones Astartes (Word Bearers) rule and Lorgar Transfigured as per HH5 in an Age of Darkness game. Other than that, Chaos Demons play exactly the same as they do in 40k.

* I believe that means Kairos Fateweaver is the only demon that can use Malefic, since the Chaos Demon FAQ specifically lists Malefic Demonology as one of the disciplines he generates from.

 GoonBandito wrote:
Just be aware that Malefic Demonology is only available to Psykers that specifically have it listed in their entry*, Librarians with the Legiones Astartes (Word Bearers) rule and Lorgar Transfigured as per HH5 in an Age of Darkness game. Other than that, Chaos Demons play exactly the same as they do in 40k.

* I believe that means Kairos Fateweaver is the only demon that can use Malefic, since the Chaos Demon FAQ specifically lists Malefic Demonology as one of the disciplines he generates from.

nope, FAQ specified that daemons and word bearers are the only ones who can play with Malefic Daemonology. So that means that 30k daemons are 40k daemons with 2 special HQs/LoWs

Also, minor, but no formations in The Age of Darkness rules.

 combat engineer wrote:
Also, minor, but no formations in The Age of Darkness rules.

The best thing about 30K

The rules are still kind of weird cause there are no "chaos daemon" army in the ally matrix so I don't really know if you can have an allied detachment with a daemon army as primary in 30K.

You can't. Daemons can be allies to a selection of others (Word Bearers and Cult Militia) but since they're not on the ally matrix, the reverse isn't true - if the primary detachment is daemons no-one can be allies to them.

The Daemon Prince Of The Ruinstorm characters are really good - as much for their Warlord Trait as anything else.

I would probably bring one or other of them just to avoid the argument. Cor'Bax is a generic nurgle daemon - tough, slow and okay at killing in melee - with the random side benefit of blowing up once he dies. Keep him in reserve and drop him in on an icon carried by some Plague Drones. He might as well be a Great Unclean one in terms of tactics.

Samus needs a bit more aforethought. His rules are great for messing with reserve armies, but whilst he's lethal in combat, getting him there needs some planning. The most important thing is to kill a few characters in the enemy army on turn 1 - which means shooting attacks. That in turn means a sizeable contingent of either Soulgrinders or Cannons of Khorne - sadly you'd need a huge game to allow you to field a brass scorpion or Lord of Skulls, but a Daemon Knight might not be a bad buy - you can't go far wrong with a twin battlecannon.

 FeindusMaximus wrote:

 combat engineer wrote:
Also, minor, but no formations in The Age of Darkness rules.

The best thing about 30K

Could not agree more!

 combat engineer wrote:

 FeindusMaximus wrote:

 combat engineer wrote:
Also, minor, but no formations in The Age of Darkness rules.

The best thing about 30K

Could not agree more!

It's one of the best things. There's so many good things. The fact 30k is so much better in its balance (and yet allows for so much variety too, even with a Marine heavy armybase.)