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Hey guys I am wondering what the best way to play a 30k Iron Warriors army in 40k is. I would like to have a rather competitive list, meaning about 1500-2000 point tourney list with 2 or 3 fluffy choices.

My thoughts were either: SM Imperial Fists, SM Iron Hands, Chaos Marines (with their re-release supplements, not sure if they are good), or Khorne Daemonkin. The exception to competitiveness is I want something that could be recognizable as IW, so no white scars bike army haha.

I am willing to buy more models obviously, so don't worry about putting any limits on model selection. I like Iron Warriors, and would like to play them in 40k as well, without sucking

Were I in your position, I'd say that all of your options are worth considering. It's simply a matter of how you interpret the fluff and how lenient your opponents are with regards to army construction.
If you're already in the position where your opponents are fine with you using Loyalist rules, I'd simply ask them to play against the Age of Darkness list.

Though not 40k 'official', using the actual rules for an Iron Warriors army seems like the best bet. You have access to the widest spectrum of Marine units of any army list and the list itself is extremely versatile.
You can build it on cores of Tactical-blobs or Breachers, where being run in 20-man units is actually beneficial. You have all the artillery and gun platforms you could hope for, you have phosphex and rad grenades to go full-on trench warfare, and you have *17* different army templates through the Rites of War.
You lose the more chaotic elements of Obliterators and Daemon Engines of course. However thanks to the Purge and the new Black Legion supplement, you can always ally them in.
This is my preferred setup because you have a wide spectrum of viable units and builds, you have the best representation of siege warfare, and you are absolutely 100% playing Iron Warriors inside and out.

MaxZ wrote:
SM Imperial Fists

SM Imperial Fists

SM Imperial Fists

Perturabo is very disappointed in you!

MaxZ wrote:
Hey guys I am wondering what the best way to play a 30k Iron Warriors army in 40k is. I would like to have a rather competitive list, meaning about 1500-2000 point tourney list with 2 or 3 fluffy choices.

My thoughts were either: SM Imperial Fists, SM Iron Hands, Chaos Marines (with their re-release supplements, not sure if they are good), or Khorne Daemonkin. The exception to competitiveness is I want something that could be recognizable as IW, so no white scars bike army haha.

I am willing to buy more models obviously, so don't worry about putting any limits on model selection. I like Iron Warriors, and would like to play them in 40k as well, without sucking

Probably the 30k-rules. Because everything CSMish is a complete mess in 40k.
And stay away from the Space Bananas, because the IWs hate them like nothing else.

 kronk wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
SM Imperial Fists

SM Imperial Fists

SM Imperial Fists

Perturabo is very disappointed in you!

Many others want a word with you, IW player.

Who is that?

 kronk wrote:
Who is that?

Some Deathwatch-loyalists?

 Ankhalagon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Who is that?

Some Deathwatch-loyalists?

I was thinking Templars. They had no Inq icons. Tbf, they don't have any BT icons either.

 Selym wrote:

 Ankhalagon wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Who is that?

Some Deathwatch-loyalists?

I was thinking Templars. They had no Inq icons. Tbf, they don't have any BT icons either.

They all have the Deathwatch shoulder pad, but the one at the front could be a Templar, given his sword markings.

Well, for the purposes of the joke, assume they're Templars.

Counts as Eldar.

use the FW seige army list

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Counts as Eldar.

Peturabo is Eldrad.

Somehow.

I'd agree with others who say you should just use the Iron Warriors Legion rules. Unless you're playing a tournament, I can't imagine too many people getting heartburn over it.

 jasper76 wrote:
I'd agree with others who say you should just use the Iron Warriors Legion rules. Unless you're playing a tournament, I can't imagine too many people getting heartburn over it.

I know multiple people who complain that 30k rules are always op against normal 40k rules...

 Selym wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
I'd agree with others who say you should just use the Iron Warriors Legion rules. Unless you're playing a tournament, I can't imagine too many people getting heartburn over it.

I know multiple people who complain that 30k rules are always op against normal 40k rules...

PFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No, seriously, I just had a game against suit Tau last night with my IW, even brought The Tyrant himself. He died to interceptor fire from two units of misslesides and a Drone commander on turn 1. Game ended there because we spent like 45 minutes trying to figure out how many points he was worth, and i had to head home a bit earlier than everyone else.

To the OP, I'm personally playing mine as Iron Hands. Color scheme's the same, quad guns are thunderfire cannons, Warsmiths are Techmarines, ect.

 Swampmist wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
I'd agree with others who say you should just use the Iron Warriors Legion rules. Unless you're playing a tournament, I can't imagine too many people getting heartburn over it.

I know multiple people who complain that 30k rules are always op against normal 40k rules...

PFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No, seriously, I just had a game against suit Tau last night with my IW, even brought The Tyrant himself. He died to interceptor fire from two units of misslesides and a Drone commander on turn 1. Game ended there because we spent like 45 minutes trying to figure out how many points he was worth, and i had to head home a bit earlier than everyone else.

To the OP, I'm personally playing mine as Iron Hands. Color scheme's the same, quad guns are thunderfire cannons, Warsmiths are Techmarines, ect.

Tbf, these are the same people who claim that FW rules are op by default, even if everyone is given a week's notice and a scanned copy of the rules before a game involving them...

kronk wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
SM Imperial Fists

SM Imperial Fists

SM Imperial Fists

Perturabo is very disappointed in you!

"20 minutes into counts-as and chill"

Mozzamanx wrote:Were I in your position, I'd say that all of your options are worth considering. It's simply a matter of how you interpret the fluff and how lenient your opponents are with regards to army construction.
If you're already in the position where your opponents are fine with you using Loyalist rules, I'd simply ask them to play against the Age of Darkness list.

Though not 40k 'official', using the actual rules for an Iron Warriors army seems like the best bet. You have access to the widest spectrum of Marine units of any army list and the list itself is extremely versatile.
You can build it on cores of Tactical-blobs or Breachers, where being run in 20-man units is actually beneficial. You have all the artillery and gun platforms you could hope for, you have phosphex and rad grenades to go full-on trench warfare, and you have *17* different army templates through the Rites of War.
You lose the more chaotic elements of Obliterators and Daemon Engines of course. However thanks to the Purge and the new Black Legion supplement, you can always ally them in.
This is my preferred setup because you have a wide spectrum of viable units and builds, you have the best representation of siege warfare, and you are absolutely 100% playing Iron Warriors inside and out.

Yeah, I currently use the IW RoW in 30k, its soo good. This would be for the tournament scenarios and so I can participate in store 40k leagues.

Ankhalagon wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
Hey guys I am wondering what the best way to play a 30k Iron Warriors army in 40k is. I would like to have a rather competitive list, meaning about 1500-2000 point tourney list with 2 or 3 fluffy choices.

My thoughts were either: SM Imperial Fists, SM Iron Hands, Chaos Marines (with their re-release supplements, not sure if they are good), or Khorne Daemonkin. The exception to competitiveness is I want something that could be recognizable as IW, so no white scars bike army haha.

I am willing to buy more models obviously, so don't worry about putting any limits on model selection. I like Iron Warriors, and would like to play them in 40k as well, without sucking

Probably the 30k-rules. Because everything CSMish is a complete mess in 40k.
And stay away from the Space Bananas, because the IWs hate them like nothing else.

I know I know....they do have good bolter rules right? I'd like to make use of my 40 tactical marines.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:Counts as Eldar.

Why didn't I think of that???

AUGmaniac wrote:use the FW seige army list

Interesting. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Space_Marines/Siege_Assault_Vanguard(7E)
Looks INSANE THOUGH. RE ROLLABLE ARMOUR SAVES HOLY &^%^&&*%&%%###$#@
Seems a bit OP for my taste, plus the siege objective seems to make games always similar. Id rather not buy IA10, but I'm glad you suggested this, I might make an army in the future based around it

Not OP, it's actually generally considered UP because of A. the amount of armor-ignoring stuff in the game, and the siege objectives making it super hard to win games at times.

 Swampmist wrote:
Not OP, it's actually generally considered UP because of A. the amount of armor-ignoring stuff in the game, and the siege objectives making it super hard to win games at times.

And B?

Iron Warriors are a Chaos Space Marines faction.

Nuff said.

Traditio wrote:
Iron Warriors are a Chaos Space Marines faction.

Nuff said.

Such a pity that you can legitimately play a more valid army using Space Wolves or SM considering the Chaos book lacks any sort of individuality for Legions, is horrendously overpointed for just about every unit and is seemingly entirely reliant on the majority of the army not being a Chaos Space Marine to actually be viable.

I say go Codex SM - but not Imperial Fists. As fluffy as their siege doctrine is it kind of feels like a spiritual kick in the balls for the IWs.

So with that...possibly Iron Hands? It's a bonus to Techmarines (Warsmiths), will let you play on the bionics if you've gone that cosmetic route and probably sits better on your choler than using the tactics of Dorn.

Probably iron hands, using the tank decurion from the upcoming supplement.

Consider this another vote for the 30k list. No reason to ham fist a good army from a good system into a broken and chaotic army-building system; just us the 30k list!

Traditio wrote:
Iron Warriors are a Chaos Space Marines faction.

Nuff said.

And the Chaos Space Marines codex is awful for playing Chaos Space Marines.

Nuff said.