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Hey Guys,

A fellow DakkaDakka user (*cough* Aniums *cough* ) on another thread brought up the topic of the Cacodominus. I looked it up because I knew nothing about it and I didn't find much. The following sums up what I found:

Lexicanum wrote:The Howling was an event in 401.M34. Black Templar Space Marines ended the Catelexis Heresy by executing the Cacodominus, an alien cyborg whose formidable psychic presence allowed it to control the populace of 1,300 planetary systems. However, the Cacodominus's death scream echoed and amplified through the Warp, burning out the minds of a billion astropaths and distorting the signal of the Astronomican. Millions upon millions of ships were lost in the resulting upheaval and entire Sub-sectors slid into barbarism without the Adeptus Terra to guide them.


Warhammer 40K Wikia didn't tell me anything different. I didn't look at 1d4chan because I don't trust it as a reliable source and I don't default to any other sources.

I'm curious - Why do people think that an event like this hasn't been explore further in the fluff? And/or am I missing something (like a novel or a Forge World Book or something)?

Would people also like to see this idea explored? My bias towards Black Templars aside, it sounds like a really cool idea to explore, especially the repercussions and how the Imperium deals with them.

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As far as I know it's one of the many things GW doesn't explain. Like M33 - M40.

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In all fairness, they have 10,000 years of fictional 'History' to cover, so it's fair that they haven't covered a lot of it.

Though an event that had such apparently catastrophic results surely deserves a bit more elaboration, doesn't it?
   
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It's fair to cover more but really the lore and game would benefit from less happening in M41.

Maybe. Depends how hard you want to make it to kill. More detail is always nice though.

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I imagine they will cover it someday. Just look at the Beast's WAAAGH! I believe that was introduced around the same time in the fluff and now they've gone and made an entire series of novels about it.
   
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It's just a blurb in one rulebook.

And like most things in 40K, it's not covered in detail because the goal of the game is to let players fill in the gaps with their games and their imaginations.

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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I like to see these 'big but unexplored' events as alternative settings for those sick of M41 ... I don't think anyone uses them this way (until forgeworld/black library started exploring the HH, The Beast, etc).

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Indeed. Don't forget the equally significant sounding Nova Terra Interregnum:


The Nova Terra Interregnum, also known as the "Time of Twin Empires," was a troubled period in Imperial history when the Imperium of Man fractured for a time into warring factions for over 900 standard years during the mid-34th through the late-35th Millennium. During this period, the rebellious Ur-Council of Nova Terra dismissed the authority of the High Lords of Terra and claimed separate rule over the Imperium's Segmentum Pacificus.

After almost a millennium of low-grade civil war and political maneuvering, the Cataclysm of Souls in 975.M35 reunited the Imperium. In that year, the Ecclesiarchy tried to transform the Imperium into a theocracy and usurp the power of the rest of the High Lords of Terra. Their efforts ended only in stirring up massive religious civil wars against the Ur-Council who were denounced as Heretics who stood in defiance of the will of the God-Emperor when they rejected the Ecclesiarchy's attempts to increase its power over the state. This religious rebellion on many worlds of the Segmentum Pacificus ultimately overthrew the Ur-Council and restored the rule of the High Lords over the entirety of the Imperium's territory, though the power of the Ecclesiarchy had been dramatically increased throughout the Imperium as a result.


I mean, that's one of the five segmenta of the bloody Imperium seceding for 1/10th of recorded history..... to my mind that merits a little more than two paragraphs!

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locarno24 wrote:
Indeed. Don't forget the equally significant sounding Nova Terra Interregnum:

Spoiler:

The Nova Terra Interregnum, also known as the "Time of Twin Empires," was a troubled period in Imperial history when the Imperium of Man fractured for a time into warring factions for over 900 standard years during the mid-34th through the late-35th Millennium. During this period, the rebellious Ur-Council of Nova Terra dismissed the authority of the High Lords of Terra and claimed separate rule over the Imperium's Segmentum Pacificus.

After almost a millennium of low-grade civil war and political maneuvering, the Cataclysm of Souls in 975.M35 reunited the Imperium. In that year, the Ecclesiarchy tried to transform the Imperium into a theocracy and usurp the power of the rest of the High Lords of Terra. Their efforts ended only in stirring up massive religious civil wars against the Ur-Council who were denounced as Heretics who stood in defiance of the will of the God-Emperor when they rejected the Ecclesiarchy's attempts to increase its power over the state. This religious rebellion on many worlds of the Segmentum Pacificus ultimately overthrew the Ur-Council and restored the rule of the High Lords over the entirety of the Imperium's territory, though the power of the Ecclesiarchy had been dramatically increased throughout the Imperium as a result.

I mean, that's one of the five segmenta of the bloody Imperium seceding for 1/10th of recorded history..... to my mind that merits a little more than two paragraphs!

Yea, this is the period I'm most interested in, outside of 30K and where we currently are in the timeline. It also happened fairly early on, so it sets the tone for the 6000 years that follow. A lot of the technological regression and so on could have happened during that period.

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It begs the question if GW and/or FW will ever get around to shedding some more light and/or creating a tabletop scenario around these sorts of major events which are so inadequately explored.
   
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 IllumiNini wrote:
It begs the question if GW and/or FW will ever get around to shedding some more light and/or creating a tabletop scenario around these sorts of major events which are so inadequately explored.
They'd both make very good spin-offs without the need to destroy the setting as they did to Warhammer with Age of Sigmar, and without the need to advance the timeline.

And the Angels of Darkness descended on pinions of fire and light... the great and terrible dark angels.
He was not the golden lord. The Emperor will carry us to the stars, but never beyond them. My dreams will be lies, if a golden lord does not rise.

I look to the stars now, with the old scrolls burning runes across my memory. And I see my own hands as I write these words. Erebus and Kor Phaeron speak the truth.

My hands. They, too, are golden.
 
   
 
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