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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 14:12:06
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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They are an awesome chapter, I collect them myself, and for a chapter that was originally non-canon they quickly became super-canon, featuring in BL novels (albeit terrible ones except Chris Roberson's DoW2 adaptation), they USED to have a transfer sheet on Forge world until very recently, obviously the DoW games, they featured a lot in the Space Marine game (both single player and as a colour option in MP with a unique armour variant), in painting books from GeeDubs, and now have an official model.
They're one of the coolest chapters IMO, a codex chapter with no known Primarch and HUGE numbers of psykers, who also perform command roles, they actively know of the GK, they have 'Secret Masters' and they have a lot of relics around because they look after them so well, and so have a great relationship with the Mechanicus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 14:54:26
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Vankraken wrote:Cool thing about the Blood Ravens is that they are also known as "Bloody Magpies" for their fondness to "acquire" wargear. They means they end up with stuff from a lot of other chapters and gives a ton of modeling options. Its completely within their fluff to have somebody with a Space Wolf chain sword or Blood Angels bolter. Even entire suits of power armor might be previously owned by other chapters.
Dawn of War is well worth the time to play, particularly the Dawn of War 2 games. If your not into computer games then at the very least witness the glory (or horror) that is Commander Boreale and Captain Diomedies on youtube. The Dawn of War series is the source of a lot of the 40k memes.
Just jumping in to defend my boys. They are not thieves. They recover and look after other Chapter's gear that has been left behind or damaged, because they have a great respect for relics and objects. Eventually, as the parent chapter never comes to collect it, it is pressed into service as a Blood Raven object. Or else there is dispute over who actually owns the object. The only actually thing that is absolutely not Blood Raven is the Power Fist "Rogal's Fist" which was owned by Dorn himself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 15:39:36
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Grizzyzz wrote: Deadshot wrote: Vankraken wrote:Cool thing about the Blood Ravens is that they are also known as "Bloody Magpies" for their fondness to "acquire" wargear. They means they end up with stuff from a lot of other chapters and gives a ton of modeling options. Its completely within their fluff to have somebody with a Space Wolf chain sword or Blood Angels bolter. Even entire suits of power armor might be previously owned by other chapters.
Dawn of War is well worth the time to play, particularly the Dawn of War 2 games. If your not into computer games then at the very least witness the glory (or horror) that is Commander Boreale and Captain Diomedies on youtube. The Dawn of War series is the source of a lot of the 40k memes.
Just jumping in to defend my boys. They are not thieves. They recover and look after other Chapter's gear that has been left behind or damaged, because they have a great respect for relics and objects. Eventually, as the parent chapter never comes to collect it, it is pressed into service as a Blood Raven object. Or else there is dispute over who actually owns the object. The only actually thing that is absolutely not Blood Raven is the Power Fist "Rogal's Fist" which was owned by Dorn himself.
Sounds really great guys, thanks for all the feedback so far.
@Deadshot, what chapter rules do you usually run? I have been wanting to make a full assault marine jump pack army for a while now, so I may merge these ideas together (not sure if that would be fluffy or not for them =P but ravens fly right haha). Torn between which chapters would give the best rules. Obviously I will be running a Librarius, that seems like a no brainer for this army. I don't expect this to be a competitive force, I mainly am interested in this project for casual (fluff) games, and a way to actually get back into / use up extra space marine models i have lying around 
I'm aiming for a full Chapter, and I use different Characters to represent my different companies. With the new codex I'm also aiming for a Librarius Conclave as it just fits them so perfectly. Mostly, I use Imperial Fists, but that's because its the most effective for my army, and fits well with my set-up (I use Lysander as Chapter Master "Gabriel Angelos" and Pedro Kantor as my 3rd Company captain, and both have IF tactics, and also have taken to using Sternguard recently).
My 8th Company Captain, I converted a Captain Shrike model, but you could also feasibly use Blood Angels as a better alternative (assuming that they still get JP troops?)
You could also run 1st Company Task Forces with Vanguard Veterans, along with your Librarius Conclave, and give them all Jump Packs. The benefits would that you have a fast moving and hard hitting force, and each squad would have Fearless and PE, with the downsides of being expensive and lacking ObjSec
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 16:26:42
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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ChazSexington wrote: Deadshot wrote:
Just jumping in to defend my boys. They are not thieves. They recover and look after other Chapter's gear that has been left behind or damaged, because they have a great respect for relics and objects. Eventually, as the parent chapter never comes to collect it, it is pressed into service as a Blood Raven object. Or else there is dispute over who actually owns the object. The only actually thing that is absolutely not Blood Raven is the Power Fist "Rogal's Fist" which was owned by Dorn himself.
You say that...
But have you checked out the list of equipment here?
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Blood_Ravens
"Recovered from battle," "Found no where near where any Doom Eagles have ever been so can't be the same one," "Rumourmongering and lies!"
Joking aside, those are all parts of a video game, where stuff gets thrown in for nostalgia or Easter Eggs. Such as Forgebreaker. That belongs to Perturabo after Horus gave it to him, after Fulgrim gave it to him, after he took it from an unconcious Ferrus Manus after a scuffle over Chaos, who originally got it from Fulgrim as a gift. The chances of Blood Ravens actually having it are nil. Likewise, the Grey Knight armour it mentions, impossible, the Grey Knights either recover the body and put the armour back into service, for they are so few, or they are completely lost to Daemonic forces. Similarly, the banner it says they stole, would never happen. Banners are a symbol of their Chapter's entire honour, if one chapter was to find the lost banner of another chapter, they wouldn't completely reweave the fether to show their own symbols, they' return it for a hefty favour from the others. Similarly, most of the Chaos weapons would be destroyed or turned to the Inquisition before they were used and simply serve as a game mechanic for corruption to determine the traitor.
Lexicanum's list is more reasonable;
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blood_Ravens#Relics
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/18 09:48:36
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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If its the series by CS Goto, avoid at all costs. It has be debunked by BL as entirely fanfiction and is some of the worst writing ever. Featuring Rhino, Razorbacks and Land Raiders tag teaming into the story on the fly (one minute they are in a Rhino, the next a Land Raider), backflipping Terminators and Multilaser space marines.
If it includes Chris Roberson's novel of DoW2, sure. Its a bit bland but it follows the story well, and nothing like Goto's fethed up fantasy world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/19 22:44:37
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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If a legit Blood Ravens supplement dropped I'd be all over it like hair on the neck of TFG. But I'd also be dissappointed due to already converting a Gabe Angelos model using Arjac and Lysander rules (so Lysander would be forced out of my army).
That said, a legit Gabe, Thaddeus, Avitus, Tarkus, all go straight into my army immediately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/20 22:28:47
Subject: Who are these mysterious Blood Ravens?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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They are pretty codex compliant but for one aspect, which is a super high concentration of psykers, so they have more Librarians. They also rever psykers because the revere no Primarch as they don't know, a former Cheif Librarian become chapter master, known as Great Father Azariah Vidya, who led them to great victories at their inception.
As such, Chapter Master is usually also Chief Librarian, and marines like Captains and Sergeants can also be Psykers, become Lexicanum Captains and Codicer Sergeants.
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