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2016/04/13 00:03:04
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Hellacious Havoc
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So I was wondering if anybody has info on who the original 8 legionaries chosen by Malcador were?
I know of:
Nathaniel Garro - Death guard
Garviel Loken - Sons of Horus
Macer Varren - World Eaters
Ive also heard speculation that Sevetar was one as well but idk if it's just a rumor.
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2016/04/13 00:14:48
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Considering none of those three are Psykers, I doubt they are the original eight.
My bets for three of them would be Tylos Rubio, Ison and Sevetar (should he actually be alive and end up recruited).
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2016/04/13 00:18:53
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Stitch Counter
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I'm under the impression Loken and Garro helped form the Inquisition to root out heresy after having so much unique experience with it. Ordo Hereticus?
As for the Grey Knights founding 8, I expect it's Aquaman, Batman, the Flash, Green Lantern, the Martian Manhunter, Superman, Wonder Woman and Alpharius. I don't think it was ever actually discussed on purpose to leave it as a mystery
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2016/04/13 00:31:19
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Hellacious Havoc
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 Wulfmar wrote:I'm under the impression Loken and Garro helped form the Inquisition to root out heresy after having so much unique experience with it. Ordo Hereticus?
As for the Grey Knights founding 8, I expect it's Aquaman, Batman, the Flash, Green Lantern, the Martian Manhunter, Superman, Wonder Woman and Alpharius. I don't think it was ever actually discussed on purpose to leave it as a mystery
Ha very clever Wulfmar! That's probably who it was. Makes sense why they're all Mary Sue's
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2016/04/13 00:47:43
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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You're forgetting Omegon.
Or maybe it was Alpharius?
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2016/04/13 13:06:48
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Garro and Loken are the first Inquisitors, not Grey Knights.
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2016/04/13 13:49:25
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmaster
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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 Gravewalker wrote:Ive also heard speculation that Sevetar was one as well but idk if it's just a rumor.
I really doubt Sevetar could be one of them. He coined the phrase "Death to the False Emperor!" after all. And he's a Night Lord to his core. I don't really see how he could become a Grey Knight, much less one of the founders. 40k isn't really that big on redemption.
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He was not the golden lord. The Emperor will carry us to the stars, but never beyond them. My dreams will be lies, if a golden lord does not rise.
I look to the stars now, with the old scrolls burning runes across my memory. And I see my own hands as I write these words. Erebus and Kor Phaeron speak the truth.
My hands. They, too, are golden.
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2016/04/13 14:09:12
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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James Swallow has said that Garro is not a Grey Knight. I think that Garro, Loken and the like went on to help with the founding of the Grey Knights, if they survive the Heresy, and are tasked by Malcador to train up the new recruits. So I guess they are part of the founding but aren't part of the actual Grey Knights, if that makes sense?
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In Flight of the Eisenstein there is a part in it where Garro seems to share an ability much like Zahariel does in Fallen Angels. It might just be coincidence though and not psychic at all.
Hmm, I heard the same thing about Sevetar as well, but isn't it present when M'shen kills Curze or does it mention that he is missing or has gone missing? I think it's in Soul Hunter.
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2016/04/13 15:11:54
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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A lot of people think Omegon is going to be Janus, the first Supreme Grand Master.
1.) Omegon seems to be fething over Alpharius and the traitors with various schemes (i.e. basically manipulating the White Scars into joining the loyalists)
2.) He has a grey armor that is hidden, similar to that of the Knights-Errant
3.) Janus is the two headed God, etc..
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2016/04/13 15:18:34
Subject: Re:Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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I believe there is a short story taking place after Sevatar is captured that hints at his change of heart and allegiance pushing him back to being an Agent of Justice. He is also claimed to be dead in the Night Lords trilogy, but there are also characters that believe him to still be alive. If he were recruited to the Knight Errants at some point in the Heresy it would most certainly seem to those unaware that he was dead now.
Speaking of candidates for the Grey Knights original 8 Masters, another possibility is the Former VIIIth Legion Chief Librarian Fel Zharost.
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2016/04/13 17:17:09
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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What exactly did that Sevatar story say to hint that?
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2016/04/13 17:28:07
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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When he escapes and murders a guy that was oppressive and cruel to an Astropath, before surrendering himself back to the Dark Angels. Its kinda different from escaping to murder lots of people and escape the DA to continue the war against the Emperor. Also he straight up calls himself an Agent of Justice.
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2016/04/13 20:22:57
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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Already, you exalt me for my triumphs,
When I ask only that you remember me for my treacheries.
Victory is nothing more than survival.
It carries no weight of honour or worth beyond what we ascribe to it.
If you wish to grow wise, learn why brothers betray brothers.’
Written on the plint of Khyron the grand master of the eight brotherhood. The pose of the statue matches sevatars.
He was a phycer so its possible.
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2016/04/13 20:24:59
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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 Harriticus wrote:A lot of people think Omegon is going to be Janus, the first Supreme Grand Master.
1.) Omegon seems to be fething over Alpharius and the traitors with various schemes (i.e. basically manipulating the White Scars into joining the loyalists)
2.) He has a grey armor that is hidden, similar to that of the Knights-Errant
3.) Janus is the two headed God, etc..
That was my point!
Our good pal Abaddon hints at this as well! 
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2016/04/14 15:29:04
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
Caliban
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Harriticus wrote:A lot of people think Omegon is going to be Janus, the first Supreme Grand Master.
1.) Omegon seems to be fething over Alpharius and the traitors with various schemes (i.e. basically manipulating the White Scars into joining the loyalists)
2.) He has a grey armor that is hidden, similar to that of the Knights-Errant
3.) Janus is the two headed God, etc..
Wow, that would be one of the coolest plot twists if that's how it actually plays out. Mindblown.
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And the Angels of Darkness descended on pinions of fire and light... the great and terrible dark angels.
He was not the golden lord. The Emperor will carry us to the stars, but never beyond them. My dreams will be lies, if a golden lord does not rise.
I look to the stars now, with the old scrolls burning runes across my memory. And I see my own hands as I write these words. Erebus and Kor Phaeron speak the truth.
My hands. They, too, are golden.
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2016/04/15 16:02:44
Subject: Original 8 Founding Grey Knight Grandmasters
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Zahariel was supposed to be a founding Grey Knight but then heresy and stuff happened and another Dark Angel took his place iirc
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