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Hello I recently bought a starter box for warmachine, and it seems that the super glue I own doesn't binde them together.. Any help or suggestions or links for products are greatly appreciated!

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Superglue should generally be fine. For weight-bearing joints you might want to look into pinning them, or using something stronger like an epoxy resin.
   
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Make sure the pieces you're gluing are clean & free of grease (use a file). Make sure your superglue is new. If it doesn't cause your eyes to water when you open it, its too old.
Pin the joints for extra strength.
The only other glue type which will work is epoxy but this takes a long time to cure so super glue is best (imo).

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Okay, maybe my super glue is just old/weak. I'll buy some new stuff. Thanks for the advice!

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If you don't have a pin-vise to pin the joins, you can always use a small amount of greenstuff (epoxy putty) when you are gluing in it. The greenstuff fills the gaps better and allows the superglue to get a better grip

   
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http://www.truevalue.com/product/Super-Glue-Liquid-Bottle-20-Gram/1143.uts?keyword=loctite

Love this stuff, I literally just got it in sitting on my desk. Even works awesome for plastic if you don't like using plastic cement.

 
   
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Honestly I prefer metal glue (testors) for metals. And pinning, for just about all parts. Superglue doesn't last in my experience.

   
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Brigadier General






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I thought all Warmachine starter's had plastic models?

Either way, for heavy metal models I recommend either Epoxy or a rubberized superglue.

Epoxy does take a longer time to set, but it's what I used for my metal warjacks and it was worth the effort. You can find epoxy that sets in a couple minutes. It's not as strong as the longer-cure stuff, but it's more than strong enough to hold metal models together much better than superglue. I recommend a toothpick to apply the epoxy after mixing.

Rubberized superglue is a good second option and works faster. A bit of rubber in the glue makes the superglue less prone to the shearing effect that makes other superglues less durable with heavy model parts. Gorilla Brand "Impact Tough" is commonly available in home improvement stores and other places. The BSI "Instaflex" is moderately common in model stores. Once in a while you'll see BSI IC-2000. It's the king of rubberized superglues, so rubbery it's black!

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I've been using Gorilla Glue Gel, but only on smaller metal parts. It's been working well so far, but I need to test it on something larger when I get around to painting my vintage Skaven screaming bell.
   
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 Monkey Tamer wrote:
I've been using Gorilla Glue Gel, but only on smaller metal parts. It's been working well so far, but I need to test it on something larger when I get around to painting my vintage Skaven screaming bell.


Hows the dry time? I thought i tried it when it first came out (the small metallic bottles) and it took way to long to dry. I know within the last few years they relaeased other options though.

 
   
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The blue capped "Gorrilla Impact Tough" gel takes about the same amount of time as other gel superglues. Not as fast as thinner superglues, but waaaay faster than epoxy.

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 Eilif wrote:
The blue capped "Gorrilla Impact Tough" gel takes about the same amount of time as other gel superglues. Not as fast as thinner superglues, but waaaay faster than epoxy.


do they still expand though?

   
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 Guildenstern wrote:
 Eilif wrote:
The blue capped "Gorrilla Impact Tough" gel takes about the same amount of time as other gel superglues. Not as fast as thinner superglues, but waaaay faster than epoxy.


do they still expand though?


No, Gorilla "Impact Tough" is a traditional Cyanoacrylate (superglue) that's been slightly rubberized. It comes in a small blue-capped bottle and is completely different from the regular Gorilla glue that requires water and expands. I've never used regular Gorilla glue for model parts, but I've used their super glue often.

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