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Hey dakka. So I know BAngels are hardly the greatest marines (perhaps still better than Templars though?) but I was wandering if you guys think this list would fair "alright" in tournaments. I have tried to go fluffy, but hopefully it has some kick to it.

CAD

"The Blooded" 2nd Company

HQ
- Captain "Aphael" w/ Artificer Armour, Combi-Grav and Valour's Edge on a Bike

- Sanguinary Priest w/ Chainsword on a Bike

ELITE
- 10x Death Company w/ a Power Fist (and bolter), 2x Power Swords, Jump Packs

- Fragioso in a Drop Pod

TROOP
- 10x Tac w/ Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Serg. w/ Combi-Flamer in a Rhino

- 10x Tac w/ Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Serg. w/ Combi-Flamer in a Rhino

FAST ATTACK
- 6x Bikes w/ 2x Gravguns, Serg. w/ Power Fist

- 7x Bikes w/ 2x Melta Guns, Serg. w/ Melta Bombs

HEAVY SUPPORT
- Baal Predator w/ Flamestorm Cannon and Sponson Heavy Bolters

- Predator w/ Autocannon, Sponson Lascannons and Overcharged Engines

- Predator w/ Autocannon, Sponson Lascannons and Overcharged Engines

1848pts.

So everything is fast and built to be good at charging if need be. The Captain and Priest will go with the Gravgun Bikes. I don't like devastator squads so I swapped them out with the predators, and figured they would be good AT support with their manoeuvrability. The Paal is a little lonely, and will most likely get picked off... I just like it and the flame turret. Either it's a good destruction or it'll get into enemy lines and burn some MEQ's. I thought the sponson Heavy Bolters would be good because it could then shoot while it got close rather than doing nothing, but maybe it's a waste of points?

Let me know what you all think

You'll do fine against some lists most of the really competitive lists will give you lots of trouble with all of their fancy rules and free things.

squads seem quite large (numerically and physically) for them to be efficient. I don't have answers for you necessarily, but a 6-7 man bike squads are taking up a lot of space on the board, as is a 10 man jetpack d,co

my usual cookie cutter tests for competitives, is how long does it take you to kill a WK, a riptide, a knight. (and how many units can you lose and still do it)

However, this isn't a theoretical army you might want to go out and buy, this is your collection, telling you to take non blood angels, is a waste of time. What I would say, is open up to the idea of taking a conclave, The Geo morphing powers for moving terrain would be absolutely massive for you, invis on those large squads, could radically change the game.

You're probably in a quandary, of you want to play the army you love, keep it semi fluffy but dont want to lose. You're blood angels, the weakest of the SM codex's without access to a majority of the toys that makes SM good. You'll need as much help as you can.

Make points for the conclave (and put them on bikes) force weapons do bad things to bad people), by thinning out some bike squads, the death co, and a predator., baal or not. I am worried by the amount of stuff you're going to be throwing forwards, and your capacity to shoot your enemy. Can you actually get them all in range?

It'll be fun, but as mentioned before the better lists will mess you up. I've always had a thing for mephiston too, but thats a childhood twang that would make me include him, rather than anything other than him being an absolute beast.

Hey, thanks for the advice.

I might make the bike squads smaller, to maybe 5 each and maybe splitting the death company into 2 squads of 5.
I'll have 60 points to spend, which I'll probably use towards putting more power weapons into my death company. I may also get rid of the combi-grab on the captain and just give him a bolt pistol for the extra ap2 attack in cc and to save points