Storm bolters w/ termie armor

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**warcorgi**

Do models wearing terminator armor count storm bolters as a close combat weapon for the purposes of gaining +1 attack in close combat for having two ccw's, i.e. power fist and storm bolter combo?

**Mr. Shine**

No.

Additionally, even if they did count as a Melee weapon, they would not grant +1 attack when used with a Power Fist.

More importantly though, this forum is for rules clarification, not provision, and isn't a replacement for owning and referring to a rulebook - it's not a place to simply ask if a rule exists.

**casvalremdeikun**

Honestly, the *should* count as a Specialist CCW, but they don't. They provide no benefit to assault whatsoever.

**Elric Greywolf**

Grey Knights once had a rule called "True Grit" that did give them a bonus attack for their storm bolters--both GKT and PAGK. It was amazing. That loss, along with Psybolt Ammo, have been two of the biggest disappointments for me.

Ofc we have NDKs now...soooooo......

**Bookwrack**

warcorgi wrote:
Do models wearing terminator armor count storm bolters as a close combat weapon for the purposes of gaining +1 attack in close combat for having two ccw's, i.e. power fist and storm bolter combo?

Storm bolters are _not_ pistols, even if terminator armor can hold it one-handed.

More to the point, do you see anything in the rules for storm bolters, or terminator armor that would make you think this is the case?

**warcorgi**

Elric Greywolf wrote:
Grey Knights once had a rule called "True Grit" that did give them a bonus attack for their storm bolters--both GKT and PAGK. It was amazing. That loss, along with Psybolt Ammo, have been two of the biggest disappointments for me.

Ofc we have NDKs now...soooooo......

Thanks Greywolf, I haven't played since 3/4th edition and True grit was the rule that resonates (as I used to play primarily Death Guard).