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So, I got the Core Set (Not the Force Awakens one) and.. Thats all I got.. I kind of wanna build up a bit on both Empire and Rebels but.. What do I buy first? What are some good purchases to build up a Empire and a Rebel force?
   
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The standard answer here is to buy what you think is cool/what you like.

The Aces packs are great for both sides, and another starter set (original or TFA) is always handy for more dice and backup templates/tokens.

What you're going to find is that it starts to be important to get certain pilot and upgrade cards, which means buying ships that you wouldn't normally buy since they're outside of your desired factions (great example: Starviper for Autothrusters).
Yes, you can buy individual cards on the secondary market, but the markup is high, and it's usually just better to get the whole ship and everything else it comes with.



 
   
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Hmm... If I build up a small Rebel force first, And then add a small Empire force after.. Would the Force Awakens core set and a Rebel Aces box be a good start, Together with the original Core Set I already got?

Or maybe the Force Awakens Core Set and a K-Wing.. The K-Wing is cool..

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Merellin wrote:
Hmm... If I build up a small Rebel force first, And then add a small Empire force after.. Would the Force Awakens core set and a Rebel Aces box be a good start, Together with the original Core Set I already got?

Or maybe the Force Awakens Core Set and a K-Wing.. The K-Wing is cool..


I think you'd be ok with a TFA Core set and a Kwing.

TFA gives you Poe Dameron, who is an excellent ace pilot for the Rebels.

The Kwing (well, Miranda anyway) is a fun ship and pretty powerful with the Twin Laser Turret.

That puts you at 3x rebel ships, with good options in Luke, Poe, and Miranda. You'll probably want to add more single ships, but I'd add the Rebel Aces pack to get an Awing and Bwing, plus decent upgrade cards.

 
   
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Merelin,
Welcome to a great game!
I have to echo the advice you have gotten already. You should buy what you think is cool.
Aces packs are great. Big ships are fun too.
Adding more of what you already have is good as well, particularly for the Imperials. Adding another Old Core Set and TIE expansion will give you what you need to run a classic mini-swarm. Still good and always good. Throw in a Tie Interceptor or (my favorite) TIE Phantom, TIE/fo. or Tie Advanced Prototype as an Ace.
Avoid the TIE Advanced unless you can get the upgrade cards from the Imperial Raider expansion.

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I'm thinking of buying the TFA core set because it apparantly comes with updated critical damage cards that are good to have, And the extra dice is always useful. And a webshop I use sometimes has given me a membership price for it that is lower then the regular core set.

And I like the K-Wing and YT-2400 ships, They both look realy cool ^_^ So I'm considering getting the TFA core set and the K-Wing at first.
   
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Imho the X-Wing and TIE-Fighter Expansions are a nice addition to the Core set when starting out. It gives you a few more pilots and options for your existing ships, so you can more easily try out different combinations and vary your lists a bit.
   
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Who will you be playing with? Tournament style players? The ga,e is starting to work out of balance so you should deffinatly plan accordingly. The original core set is completely out of date and there isn't much in there worth using in competitive play anymore. The t-70 x-wing pretty much make the t-65 useless. The b-wing expansion is good because you get ten numb. Mix him with mangler cannon and you have unsaved lie crits! Do a little googling and you should be power combing in no time!

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rothrich wrote:
Who will you be playing with? Tournament style players? The ga,e is starting to work out of balance so you should deffinatly plan accordingly. The original core set is completely out of date and there isn't much in there worth using in competitive play anymore. The t-70 x-wing pretty much make the t-65 useless. The b-wing expansion is good because you get ten numb. Mix him with mangler cannon and you have unsaved lie crits! Do a little googling and you should be power combing in no time!


Completely disagree about the original core set being useless. You still get Ties, which are the most cost efficient ship in the game, and the T-65 is still a great ship in certain lists. I still think OP should get TFA box though if he already has a core set.

The B-wing expansion is good...because you get a B-wing. Ten Nunb is seldomly seen in tournament lists because he's expensive and BBBBZ is just better. Ten can get expensive fast, and in the high firepower, ace heavy meta we're in his 1 agility isn't going very far.

 
   
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I dont think anyone I will be playing against is a tournament level player, I think all of them are somewhat new to the game and just play for fun.
   
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 House Griffith wrote:
rothrich wrote:
Who will you be playing with? Tournament style players? The ga,e is starting to work out of balance so you should deffinatly plan accordingly. The original core set is completely out of date and there isn't much in there worth using in competitive play anymore. The t-70 x-wing pretty much make the t-65 useless. The b-wing expansion is good because you get ten numb. Mix him with mangler cannon and you have unsaved lie crits! Do a little googling and you should be power combing in no time!


Completely disagree about the original core set being useless. You still get Ties, which are the most cost efficient ship in the game, and the T-65 is still a great ship in certain lists. I still think OP should get TFA box though if he already has a core set.

The B-wing expansion is good...because you get a B-wing. Ten Nunb is seldomly seen in tournament lists because he's expensive and BBBBZ is just better. Ten can get expensive fast, and in the high firepower, ace heavy meta we're in his 1 agility isn't going very far.


This, plus R2-D2 and Biggs are great.

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Merellin wrote:
I dont think anyone I will be playing against is a tournament level player, I think all of them are somewhat new to the game and just play for fun.


Merellin,
There are a few list archetypes that you will probably influence your buying. At various points, these basic lists have done well competitively and can be the basis of a fun list too. They are archetypes that work well for a variety of players and most have a lot of variability. Each has its own playstyle and qwirks. That is basically why this game can get away with breaking Wakelin's Rule (minimum of 4 factions in a wargame).

Imperials:
Swarm - 6-8 Ties
Mini Swarm + Ace - 4-5 Ties plus an Ace
Triple Ace
Palp Aces - 2 Aces and a Shuttle with Palpatine
Deci-Vader - Vader on a Decimator +Ace or MiniSwarm

And coming this summer
Bombers - 3-4 Bombers or Punishers
2-3 Bombers or Punisher w/Ace
Triple Defenders
Double Defenders + Aces

Rebels
Swarm 5-6 Z-95's with munitions
Triple K-WIng
BBBBZ
BBYY
Rebel Regen - Miranda, Poe, and Corran
Fat Han - 60 point Han and 3 Z-95's
Green Arrow - 3 Green Squadron A-Wings
Double Pancake - 2 YT-1300 or YT-2400 or a mix

Scum
Double Aggressor (bro-bots)
Bug Zapper- Z-95 Swarm w Feedback Array
Triple U-Boat - three Jumpmaster 5000 with a variety of munitions
***Scum have a lot of lists where they don't spam things... the lists don't look like they should work well on paper but they do. It's a lot of fun.***


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With Aces for the Imperials you mean the Imperial Aces box right? I have no idea where any named pilots are from.. BBYY is 2 B-Wings and 2 Y-Wings right? And BBBBZ is.. 4 B-Wings and.. A Headhunter maybe..? I'm trying to stay out of Scum right now (A bit much to build on 3 factions right off the bat)

I think I wanna buy the TFA Core Set since I can get it cheep, And I hear the damage cards from it are useful and extra dice are always needed..
   
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In this case ace means any named pilot. And you guessed right on the BBBBZ and BBYY lists. Rebel lists usualy get abriviated to a string of letters, especially when using generics (un-named pilots).
   
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Hmm... Lets see.. What ships do I like the looks of..? I realy like the looks of the Decimator and the YT-2400.. Most of the Imperial small ships look nice and of the Rebels I like the K-Wing, Y-Wing, X-Wing, and Headhunter best.. I dont like the B-Wing or E-Wing at all. I know the B-Wing is super iconic, but I always found it ugly.. xD
   
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TFA Core set is a good pick up.

If you're looking for a reference for the game, including in which packs certain cards come in, try downloading the Xwing Companion App.
It's well maintained, and will allow you to see where to get some of the named pilots.

 
   
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Does the Companion App need internet to use after download? And does it work on Android Tablets? I dont her internet in my phone, and my tablet only has internet in my appartment due to running off my wireless internet.

Thanks for all the help everyone ^_^
   
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Yeah, TFA Core isn't a bad purchase... but like the old Core, you will want to add a T-70 and TIE/fo expansion to it. The new damage deck is well balanced, the old damage deck was very hit or miss. You could pull a crit that literally meant nothing to your list or a crit that cripples a ship. The new one every crit hurts a bit more evenly. More dice and asteroids and templates are all great to have.

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Do I realy need 4 X-Wings (Two regular and two of the new ones) And 6 Tie-Fighters (Three regular and 3 new) that I would get if I buy the new starter and 1 extra of each type of X-Wings and Tie-Fighters? Or is it for the pilot cards and equipment? I'm considering trying to build a list for Rebels based arround the YT-2400 and a list for the Imperials based arroundt he Decimator, As those two ships look awesome..
   
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Merellin wrote:
I'm thinking of buying the TFA core set because it apparantly comes with updated critical damage cards that are good to have, And the extra dice is always useful. And a webshop I use sometimes has given me a membership price for it that is lower then the regular core set.

And I like the K-Wing and YT-2400 ships, They both look realy cool ^_^ So I'm considering getting the TFA core set and the K-Wing at first.
TFA would be an excellent buy, you'll get ships for both factions, extra templates and dice, and all the new cards. If you're not playing in tournaments then you don't need to worry too much about upgrade cards. You can use sites like http://xwing-builder.co.uk to make lists and see what is available.

For Rebels, I think it's a good idea to grab a Z95 Head hunter, because it is their cheapest ship so it's easy to pad out lists with, and it's also usable in Scum and villainy lists, so you get a lot of versatility. Same with the Y-wing. The "Most Wanted" set comes with two head hunters and a Y-wing, for the scum faction, and cards and dials for the Firespray. So that can be a good way to bulk out a Rebel squad if you already have those expansions, and you get the option of running Scum too. If you get the Firespray for the imperials, then you can also use it with Scum, with the most wanted set, so there is lots of versatility and value there.

You might also want to consider the Imperial Assault Carrier as a centre piece over the Decimator. When you factor in the two Tie Fighters, it's about the same price, and a bit more impressive IMO. I never found the Decimator much fun to fly, it's kind of like a beefed up version of the Lambda, with lots of crew shenanigans but not much mobility. The YT-2400 is a bit more fun as it can turn and roll out of people's arc, and then blast 'em from behind with HLC turrets. The Firespray is pretty fun, and gets more fun in Scum with pilots like Emon Azzameen who can drop bombs in crazy arcs.

Personally, I tend to have the most fun with the Aces, ships like the A-Wing and Vader in the Tie Advanced... You can create lots of combos, with cards like Push the Limit and Advanced Sensors, that let you boost and barrel roll in the same turn to get behind people. Of course, YMMV.

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Merellin wrote:
Do I realy need 4 X-Wings (Two regular and two of the new ones) And 6 Tie-Fighters (Three regular and 3 new) that I would get if I buy the new starter and 1 extra of each type of X-Wings and Tie-Fighters? Or is it for the pilot cards and equipment? I'm considering trying to build a list for Rebels based arround the YT-2400 and a list for the Imperials based arroundt he Decimator, As those two ships look awesome..


T-65 X-Wings (Old) are different from T-70 X-Wings (TFA). They have different pilots, dials, and equipment. They have slightly different roles as well. More than that, there are different pilots and upgrades in the expansion packs than are in the starters.
The same goes for the TIE Fighters (Old) and the TIE/FO (TFA).
If you are building around the big ships, then you wouldn't necessarily go with the expansion packs.

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Forgot all about this:

Excellent guide on what to buy for new players, set up FAQ style.

https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/wiki/faq/buying

 
   
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I decided to go on what looked cool, So I orderd the The Force Awakens Core set, Plus a K-Wing and a Inquisitors Tie
   
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Solid purchases, all will give you good ships.

Although some might debate you about the K-wing looking "cool".

 
   
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Well, I like the K-Wing and I find the B-Wing ugly, So I guess im not your average Star Wars fan.. =P
   
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Defenders, man. Gotta get some Defenders.
   
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Woo! My stuff arrived! I orderd a The Force Awakens Core Set, A K-Wing and a Inquisitor's Tie from a swedish webshop yesterday afternoon, and they arrived today at lunch!
   
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Defenders are awesome. I played the old Tie fighter game and... well, they were broken.
Defenders will be broken (in the right ways) after the Imp Vets box.
Shipping in Sweden is on par with Amazon Prime... unless you live where I am. Very cool purchases... get in lots of games!

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 Anpu-adom wrote:
Defenders are awesome. I played the old Tie fighter game and... well, they were broken.
Defenders will be broken (in the right ways) after the Imp Vets box.
Shipping in Sweden is on par with Amazon Prime... unless you live where I am. Very cool purchases... get in lots of games!


I'd add that the Defenders is a decent, if hard to use and overpriced option at this time. Mostly due to its 1- and 2- sharp turns are red, which makes it a lot less maneuverable than other ties, almost a third of your points of your squad for your baseline pilot and a lack of a built-in evade action. Granted it is still a rather decent ship, but it really need the support of cards from Imperial Veterans to see competitive play.

Do not want to be too argumentative but I wanted to be critical of the defender a bit just so the OP knows.

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stripeydave wrote:
Defenders, man. Gotta get some Defenders.


This is so true you'll need one defender expansion for Rexler and vessery and imperial veterans when it comes out.
   
 
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