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Gents. Im about to put together their big all in one ACW box game. 28mm. Looks like their basing suggestion is as follows:

Artillery:
-Gun + 4 Crew

Infantry:
-3×1
-3×2

Cavalry:
-3 abreast x1 base
-3 single based
-1 Mounted general

Not that I will ever get to play with these guys but if I did, would these be ok for any system? I would glue them down. Mainly I think Black Powder would be the most likely.

Thanks.

And Zouves? First Id ever even heard of them. Crazy. Kinda bummed on them, just cause they look nothing like what Ive pictured Union Skirmishers to look like. Never depicted in the talkies either. Soooo I dont even get the oooohs and aaaahs Ill just get, "what are those Morrocans doing in there?"

How big are the bases?
As Black Powder recommends infantry on a 20mm base area normaly with 4 on a 40*40mm base, but its also fin with them on taking up 15mm with 3 wide on a 45mm wide base, you would just increase the number of models so that frontage of the unit would be the same as if it were on 20mm.

So a standard sized unit of 24 guys on 40mm bases would be 240mm wide, you would need 32 guys to get the same frontage at 15mm per guy though for 45mm wide bases you'd need to have a single 15mm wide base to make it work.
Though you would want some guys based singularly or just 1 deep to represent skirmishers or even just making the unit form up in a certain way better.

But so long as both sides are based the same there wont be a problem.

Also recomended sizes for cav are 25mm frontage with the normal base being 2 wide by one deep, artillery is as required.

And i'm kinda the same on the Zouves

ACW infantry should be based in single rank bases as the standard fighting formation was two ranks.

The width of the base doesn't matter too much as long as all the infantry bases are the same width. There are many sets of ACW rules for different levels of command, so there isn't a single standard to be recommended.

If you've decided to play Black Powder, may as well use their base dimensions.

Zouaves are just ordinary troops who thought it would be rather natty to dress up in French North African Zouave style costumes. They didn't have any special training and work like any other infantry.

Once you look into ACW uniforms you realise that there was a huge variety at the beginning, thanks to all the different militia regiments who chose their own uniforms. During the course of the war things gradually changed to more or less standard dark blue jacket, light blue trousers for Union troops, and either militia grey or more likely butternut brown for Rebels.

By odd coincidence, I am starting on that same box myself. I'm placing an order tonight for a bunch of MDF bases, to base them using standard BP dimensions.

I havent checked yet (got side tracked by 4ground DZC terrain), but do the green plastic bases that come with it not correspond to BP dimensions? Thought the perrys and calvatore and priestly were all thick as theives. Figured it would cross over... no?

The battle box includes a version of Firepower rules by Calvatore. Presumably the included plastic bases work with that. IDK if it's the same as Black Powder. I think Black Powder uses WHFB base sizes. That is to say, 20mm square per infantry figure, making the frontage for several figures.

My box of perry austrians come with 15mm increment bases so the acw box might as well, which is still usable for black powder.

The OP has already got the ACW battle in a box, so he knows the dimensions of the bases, in case they are not 15mm.

It would be cool to inform the forum so we can add to our invaluable stock of war game base knowledge.

It comes with an assortment of bases. I have some that are 50x100, 40x45, 20x45, 20x15, 30x20. I'm just ignoring the ones that came with it and ordering some mdf ones instead.

ETA - later today, I will take a count of all the bases, to add to the collective pool of knowledge.

For Black Power Napoleonics I use 4 models on a 40x40mm base arranged intuitively - two in front/two in back. My cavalry are on the 45mm x something mm provided in all the Perry Boxes, two models side by side. (When I ever get around to putting my Nappies on my P&M Blog I'll add a link.)

My Standard Sized Infantry Battalions are six bases. When in column formation I have three in front, and three in back. For Line formation I have all bases in..errr...a line.

With ACW you will probably be using the Mixed Formation which has you take 1/3 of the bases and arrange them out front as skirmishers. All of my skirmishers are based two models on a 40x40 base in a loose skirmishey formation. For my French battalions I have the Voltiguers as two separate bases and just stick them in front, and then don't mess with the main Attack Column. (NOTE: This is NOT how the rules say to do it - you are supposed to take two bases worth of models out, ideally on 40x20 half bases. I think it looks better my way and since I' building both armies that's how I'm doing it!)

As was stated about Zouaves, they are regular infantry just dressed fancy. I believe Zouaves were more common in the Federal Army than in the Confederate, though Louisiana had the famous Tiger Zouaves. There was a specific two-band rifle made for Zouaves though I assume most would have carried what they could get. The Zouave rifle is in the same .58 caliber as the Springfield and Enfield muskets (and if anyone was wondering, it is real fun to shoot!)

Base counts -
100 x 50 - 4
45 x 40 - 14
45 x 20 - 41
20 x 15 - 3
30 x 20 - 3
60 x 45 - 4

That may correspond to the figures as follows:

100 x 50 - 4 = limbered artillery
45 x 40 - 14 = cavalry
45 x 20 - 41 = infantry
20 x 15 - 3 = generals (?)
30 x 20 - 3 = skirmishers (?)
60 x 45 - 4 = deployed artillery

That's my guesses anyway.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
That may correspond to the figures as follows:

100 x 50 - 4 = limbered artillery
45 x 40 - 14 = cavalry
45 x 20 - 41 = infantry
20 x 15 - 3 = generals (?)
30 x 20 - 3 = skirmishers (?)
60 x 45 - 4 = deployed artillery

That's my guesses anyway.

It might be. I plan on using BP basing, more or less, and ignoring what came with the kit, so I did not really try to figure out what went with what.

Now I just have to find the motivation to paint. Anything. (I find that I have more motivation when I am actually getting to play games, and life has been getting in the way of my gaming lately.)