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2016/05/03 02:06:02
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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I am seeing the leaks for the new flyer rules and all I can think is this has to be a joke. I can just imagine the following conversation going on at GW.
GW employee Steve: Hey Carl, you know what would be funny?
GW employee Carl: what's that Steve?
Steve: what if we figured out a way to get 40k players to play rock paper scissors for decisions?
Carl: that would be awesome, let's release some rules with that in it.
Steve: let's make an entire book for a whole new phase of the game on how to play our rock paper scissors mini game and make it mandatory!
Carl: Steve, you are so smart!
*Carl and Steve high five*
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"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
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2016/05/03 05:05:48
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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40K has been RPS for quite some time. That's what a "hard counter" is: the rock to your scissors.
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2016/05/03 14:57:58
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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 Psienesis wrote:40K has been RPS for quite some time. That's what a "hard counter" is: the rock to your scissors.
This. RPS isn't new, it's been around for awhile.
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2016/05/03 15:22:23
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Fighter Ace
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fwiw it's not mandatory and I expect it'll mostly be ignored.
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2016/05/03 15:31:47
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Its pseudo mandatory. If you don't want to, but your opponent does he's allowed to roll off for it.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2016/05/03 15:36:00
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Sadly this isnt anything new, its just gotten dramatically worse over the last ~4 or so years. 40k has really become a gigantic mess of a shitshow.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2016/05/03 15:36:45
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Lady of the Lake
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Has it been RPS since 3rd ed or RT?
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2016/05/03 15:45:54
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I think it has always been there.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
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2016/05/03 15:50:17
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Fixture of Dakka
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:Its pseudo mandatory. If you don't want to, but your opponent does he's allowed to roll off for it.
Actually, the rulebook says both players agree to the kind of game they want to play.
Nothing or anything is allowed, but it has to be agreed upon.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
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2016/05/03 16:05:36
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Wait, is dogfighting literally the game of rock paper scissors?
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2016/05/03 19:58:36
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Yup, both opponents have to purchase, build and paint 1 flyer of each type. Then they chant "BOMBER ,ATTACK, FIGHTER, SHOOT!" and then whoop one of the 3 models out form behind their back. The winner gets 1 VP and can deploy their flyer in their next turn.
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2016/05/03 20:09:00
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Douglas Bader
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Yes. In the previous version of the "dogfighting" rules they actually suggested that you roll a die to see what your pilot does instead of picking because it's just R/P/S and there's no possible strategy involved.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2016/05/03 20:45:27
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Good thing it's not mandatory and will probably be ruled out in tournaments.
Next to that you can agree with your opponent on how to go about it. Just like you do now about many things.
So nothing changes, the end.
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2016/05/03 21:41:38
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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 gwarsh41 wrote:
Yup, both opponents have to purchase, build and paint 1 flyer of each type. Then they chant "BOMBER ,ATTACK, FIGHTER, SHOOT!" and then whoop one of the 3 models out form behind their back. The winner gets 1 VP and can deploy their flyer in their next turn.
Sad to say I could believe this of gw after the AoS release.
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2016/05/04 11:42:17
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Reckon this travesty of a release (*cough* cashgrab *cough*) will see about as much use as the original DftS.
Feedback to the facebook page. Maybe they'll get the idea and start employing people with some vague clue what they're doing.
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2016/05/04 12:02:43
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Morphing Obliterator
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gwarsh41 wrote:
Yup, both opponents have to purchase, build and paint 1 flyer of each type. Then they chant "BOMBER ,ATTACK, FIGHTER, SHOOT!" and then whoop one of the 3 models out form behind their back. The winner gets 1 VP and can deploy their flyer in their next turn.
You are not serious. Please tell me you aren't serious...
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"From the immaterium to the Imperium, this is Radio Free Nostramo! Coming to you live from the Eye of Terror, this is your host, Captain Contagion, bringing you the latest Heretical hits!"
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2016/05/04 12:14:13
Subject: Re:Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Norn Queen
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Wait, is dogfighting literally the game of rock paper scissors?
Yup, both opponents have to purchase, build and paint 1 flyer of each type. Then they chant "BOMBER ,ATTACK, FIGHTER, SHOOT!" and then whoop one of the 3 models out form behind their back. The winner gets 1 VP and can deploy their flyer in their next turn.
You are not serious. Please tell me you aren't serious...
Havent the read rules either and am similarly perturbed 
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goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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2016/05/04 12:23:03
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Someone please explain how it is a rps minigame. I don't even know where to look...
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2016/05/04 14:31:44
Subject: Re:Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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This is what they are discussing: http://i.imgur.com/cXLWEE6.jpg
Here's the table where you compare Rock (Break Left) to Scissors (Roll Right) and find out the result: https://warofsigmar.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture5/728/3XL.jpg
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2016/05/04 14:35:33
Subject: Re:Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Cool. It's a campaign book basically. If I don't have any Flyers or refuse to use it, then nothing changes.
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2016/05/04 14:51:21
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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I assume so, yes.
Bit of a weird one where you can factor in - say - a Stormraven as an assault vehicle that also provides anti-air... but in some games/rules it loses skyfire.
You'd need to know you were playing this variant in advance and build for it a bit.
Can't see it being particularly popular.
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2016/05/04 15:56:35
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Hallowed Canoness
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Stormravens as anti-air is stupid. They are not interceptor craft. They're slow, ungainly, and their guns are either too-short-ranged or pointing the wrong way to be used as interceptors.
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2016/05/04 17:22:51
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Wow what a terrible rule set to add to the game instead of fixing their already terrible game. You know for a modeling company they sure do put out a lot of rules for 1 specific game...
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2016/05/04 17:51:42
Subject: Re:Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Ahahaha, and now I am even less inclined to purchase a overpriced flyer GW, thankyou.
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2016/05/04 17:58:17
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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 Furyou Miko wrote:Stormravens as anti-air is stupid. They are not interceptor craft. They're slow, ungainly, and their guns are either too-short-ranged or pointing the wrong way to be used as interceptors.
Maybe on the other hand, if you're a grey knight or blood angel player it's all you have. because GW apparently decided to give the stormraven to space marines, but not return the favor by giving the storm talon to those two factions...
I play vanilla marines and grey knights and even I'M kinda salty about that (grey knights makes a degree of sense but blood angels SHOULD get storm talons_
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2016/05/05 08:06:03
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Stalwart Tribune
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I will just ignore that piece of work......
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2016/05/05 08:41:58
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Hallowed Canoness
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BrianDavion wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Stormravens as anti-air is stupid. They are not interceptor craft. They're slow, ungainly, and their guns are either too-short-ranged or pointing the wrong way to be used as interceptors.
Maybe on the other hand, if you're a grey knight or blood angel player it's all you have. because GW apparently decided to give the stormraven to space marines, but not return the favor by giving the storm talon to those two factions...
I play vanilla marines and grey knights and even I'M kinda salty about that (grey knights makes a degree of sense but blood angels SHOULD get storm talons_
Storm Talons are also Ground Attack Craft and crappy interceptors. That's why they've given you the Stormhawk now.
Anyway, Grey Knights have no room to complain. They have a plastic flying assault transport.
My flier is a resin ground attack craft with a single anti-air mount, which, by the way, is a heavy stubber. S4. And I don't have an Assault Transport at all. So don't try whining to me about how you don't have an interceptor. That don't wash. You'll just have to bring some allies like every other poor baby in the Imperium.
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2016/05/05 10:13:26
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Furyou Miko wrote:BrianDavion wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Stormravens as anti-air is stupid. They are not interceptor craft. They're slow, ungainly, and their guns are either too-short-ranged or pointing the wrong way to be used as interceptors.
Maybe on the other hand, if you're a grey knight or blood angel player it's all you have. because GW apparently decided to give the stormraven to space marines, but not return the favor by giving the storm talon to those two factions...
I play vanilla marines and grey knights and even I'M kinda salty about that (grey knights makes a degree of sense but blood angels SHOULD get storm talons_
Storm Talons are also Ground Attack Craft and crappy interceptors. That's why they've given you the Stormhawk now.
Anyway, Grey Knights have no room to complain. They have a plastic flying assault transport.
My flier is a resin ground attack craft with a single anti-air mount, which, by the way, is a heavy stubber. S4. And I don't have an Assault Transport at all. So don't try whining to me about how you don't have an interceptor. That don't wash. You'll just have to bring some allies like every other poor baby in the Imperium.
Huh? What army is this?
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2016/05/05 13:24:42
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Pewling Menial
Right here, at the moment
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Sisters of Battle 
their only form of reliable flyer defence is the FW Avenger Strike Fighter, and even then it's primarily anti-ground
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2016/05/05 23:36:54
Subject: Rock, paper, scissors has come to 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Remmick_005 wrote:Sisters of Battle
their only form of reliable flyer defence is the FW Avenger Strike Fighter, and even then it's primarily anti-ground
Trust the sisters to bring the wine.
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