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Raise the anchors and ready your horses as May is full of exciting new pre-orders for Dystopian Wars, Wild West Exodus, and Warcradle Scenics.

Following the Sultanate's introduction to Dystopian Wars last month it feels like something is missing, but what could it be? That's right, the Latin Alliance. Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, the French take to the seas in the name of the Alliance. The Sultanate, hearing of this return, deploy reinforcements of their own to prepare for what is to come.

The skies over Wild West Exodus are filled with the distinct clang of metallic wings piercing through the air as the Enlightened’s vulture-like invention, the Apex Hellion swoop down on their unwitting victims.

Red Oak continues to expand this month as the Red Oak Town Set 2 features more of your favourite scenery and terrain re-releases, now in beautiful colour, in a great value set.

Make sure not to miss when these exciting new pre-orders for Dystopian Wars, Wild West Exodus and Warcradle Scenics go live on the 29th of April 2022.

Due to be released at the end of May 2022.



Dystopian Wars

The French begin to lower the hull of the Oriflamme into the water as they get ready to kickstart their navy with the Oriflamme Battlefleet Set. In aid of the Anatolia, the Sultanate strengthen their hold on the waters with the Sultanate Frontline Squadrons.

Oriflamme Battlefleet Set

Driven forward by the memories of past glory the Latin Alliance launch their first ships in the form of the French Oriflamme Battlefleet Set.



At the heart of the Alliance battleline can be found the Oriflamme Battleship. Thoroughly modernised from the hulls of ageing Prince de Joinville class Battleships, the Oriflamme are the pride of the Republique.

As much a work of art as a Battleship, even enemy crews can’t help but be impressed by the lines and craftsmanship of an Oriflamme cutting through the waves.

This box contains:

1x Oriflamme Battleship
2x Cruiser (can be built as either a Loire, Picardy, Chevalier or Charlemagne Class ship)
4x Ecuyere Frigate

Sultanate Frontline Squadrons

The Sultanate cannot rest on their laurels this month and must make sure to keep up their presence with the introduction of the Sultanate Frontline Squadrons.



This box contains:

2x Cruiser (can be built as either a Iskandar, Izmir, Pasha or Sadrazam Class ship. Both cruisers can also be combined to build a Hurrem Grand Cruiser or a Mehmed Grand Monitor)
4x Temir Frigate

Wild West Exodus

Keep your eyes to the skies this month as the Enlightened are busy tinkering to create even more Apex Hellions.

Apex Hellions

Previously seen in the Murder of Hellion Posse Set, the Apex Hellions are available to pre-order as their own separate set.



The Apex Hellions are a refinement of Caym’s designs for winged constructs, often used as lieutenants, or more accurately pack leaders, for his forces.

Apex Hellions fly in on great mechanical wings tearing apart their targets without remorse or any emotion apart from hate amplified by whatever processes Caym uses to control these soaring terrors. They are the first to engage the enemy, urged on by a monstrous will that only seeks to tear and rend.

While they lack the ability to employ ranged weapons, their Hellion Evicerators are more than enough to tangle up an opponent before ripping them apart in a hideous display of slaughter. Science untempered by ethics is a horrifying thing.

This box contains:

2x Apex Hellions

Warcradle Scenics

Expand your Red Oak town with even more detailed terrain for your tabletop to host shootouts and gunfights with the Red Oak Town Set 2.

Red Oak Town Set 2



This set contains:

1x Residence
1x Distillery
1x Town House
1x Gallows and Clock Tower
1x Post Office
1x Cartwright
1x Bank
1x Watchtower

As you can see May is full of exciting releases for Dystopian Wars, Wild West Exodus and Warcradle Scenics.

Make sure to pre-order yours on the 29th of April from your FLGS or Wayland Games online.

Stay up to date with everything we have in store right here on the Warcradle Studios Blog and make sure to let us know what you are most excited about over on our Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

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The French are practically everything I've been missing in the new DW art direction up until now ...
   
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I really feel like if you compare the models they are releasing now to the first wave Russians there are some clear signs here and there of WC developing an eye and style and confidence as well as a few new methods here and there

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May releases are now available to pre-order!

Make sure to check out the Warcradle Studios Blog for more information.
   
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Has there been any mention or hint if Warcradle is going to tackle aerial warships, or is the new DW going to remain a purely wet navy game?

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 Soundtheory wrote:
Has there been any mention or hint if Warcradle is going to tackle aerial warships, or is the new DW going to remain a purely wet navy game?

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They are 100% going to do them - there's several bits of concept art on their Facebook. I think they are just slower at pushing out stuff than Spartan Games were; and WC has focused on establishing the core of the sea forces for the various factions first.

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So is this still purely a collectors' and painters' game or is anyone playing? I see loads of painting posted on social media but zero battle reports outside paid content like On Tabletop.

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They basically launched during the Pandemic - heck the first year of the pandemic shot them in the foot with their release, but then they used it to move the core ships from all resin to plastics and resins which I think likely has worked out well for them because it lets them have a good chunk of cruiser class ships covered by 1 plastic sprue with alternate builds.

So I'm not totally surprised that there isn't as much gameplay out there, many clubs are sort of only just starting up again regularly in physical interactions.

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 Soundtheory wrote:
Has there been any mention or hint if Warcradle is going to tackle aerial warships, or is the new DW going to remain a purely wet navy game?

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They'll be added but the game is going to stay primarily focused on the wet navy aspects

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To be fair the same was true of the original game as well in terms of unit diversity.

Air units you'd have airfields, battleships, heavy bombers, heavy/larger fighters and gunships. After that it varied up a bit between factions as some would get specialist air units and I'm sure some iwll get more than others. I hope this time around the Russian forces get more air units, in the original they didn't have many (they made up for it by having more land units like a land dreadnought); but they did have allied forces who had more airships. So chances are we will see them get them directly this time as WC have consolidated some of the alliances into single blocks



I know so far we've seen concept art for Crown airships - airfield, battleship, gunship. That was a fair while back so they might well have had some changes and such.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
So is this still purely a collectors' and painters' game or is anyone playing? I see loads of painting posted on social media but zero battle reports outside paid content like On Tabletop.


The Facebook group has quite a few pictures of people playing the game.

But Youtube won't have a lot of battlereports for it... Making a somewhat decent video battlereport requires an insane time investment and the sad reality of "wargaming social media" is that, if it's not 40k, it's not getting enough clicks to make money off off it.



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 Soundtheory wrote:
Has there been any mention or hint if Warcradle is going to tackle aerial warships, or is the new DW going to remain a purely wet navy game?

ST


The Tianlong airships are already out for Empire, as well as the smaller flying mass 1 robots for the Americans.

And there was a sneak peak preview on the Facebook page for the Bavarian zeppelin fleet (both renders of Mass 1 and Mass 3 zeppelins were shown) for Imperium. And there are concept art sketches out there for Crown airships, so it's definitely getting added more in the future.

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 Elmir wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
So is this still purely a collectors' and painters' game or is anyone playing? I see loads of painting posted on social media but zero battle reports outside paid content like On Tabletop.


The Facebook group has quite a few pictures of people playing the game.

But Youtube won't have a lot of battlereports for it... Making a somewhat decent video battlereport requires an insane time investment and the sad reality of "wargaming social media" is that, if it's not 40k, it's not getting enough clicks to make money off off it.



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 Soundtheory wrote:
Has there been any mention or hint if Warcradle is going to tackle aerial warships, or is the new DW going to remain a purely wet navy game?

ST


The Tianlong airships are already out for Empire, as well as the smaller flying mass 1 robots for the Americans.

And there was a sneak peak preview on the Facebook page for the Bavarian zeppelin fleet (both renders of Mass 1 and Mass 3 zeppelins were shown) for Imperium. And there are concept art sketches out there for Crown airships, so it's definitely getting added more in the future.


In fact, here's some of the concept art for the Imperium and Crown that i could find just floating around on Warcradle's blog.
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I think I posted this video before, but the Imperium Stark zeppelin was already previewed as render video before.



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I wonder how they'll function rules-wise, since the game is mostly geared towards regular ships

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder how they'll function rules-wise, since the game is mostly geared towards regular ships


The rules for flying units are already there.

They gain an immunity from submersed weapons and due to their flying, they can never be targeted by weapons at point blank range (and that's not always and advantage in this game... that can actually be worse for the two most common weapons). Alongside the obvious stuff like being able to pass over terrain...


All in all, the flying units come with advantages, but also some noticeable disadvantages in the ORBATS (lower hullpoints definitely being one of them.

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At this stage, the developers have essentially said that, as soon as the French and Sultanate are a little more fleshed out (meaning, received both "standard" frontline and support set), we'll be seeing a lot more "asymmetrical" releases, showing more divergence from faction to faction.


So Imperium seemingly will have air units and giant robots, but hardly any submarine units. Commonwealth will have robots and submarines, but no real air presence... And the Crown having lots of airhsips, submarines, but no mega-robots etc.

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I feel like they're hitting a pretty sweet spot with that already, everyone has some defining feature like Chinese flame throwers everywhere, all Jap cruiser sizes able to mount a small SRS deck, Americans have scout flyers, Russia poops out terrain, etc.


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Do we have any sort of roadmap beyond the sketches in the ORBATs? It's been about 1 new sprue and 1-2 big resin ships each month, right?

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It's probably for the best we don't have a big roadmap. Considering WC had some growing pains and the pains of global shipping right now, even if they produce in house there's a lot of cogs turning that can mess things up. Even GW has struggled and they are a big experienced firm.

Heck WC still hasn't got Firestorm Armada out of the gate.

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Oh I'm not holding my breath for Armada, not while DW is getting a new sprue each month. That's a crazy rate for anyone outside GW.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh I'm not holding my breath for Armada, not while DW is getting a new sprue each month. That's a crazy rate for anyone outside GW.


As weird as that sounds... It's true. I like Firestorm Armada, but I would much rather see a similar pace to Dystopian Wars for wargames in general... And I would rather see them bringing out the bulk of sprues for one wargame, before they start spreading out to another wargame (even if they do have a massive stack of IPs by now).

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Yea let's not go down the road Spartan did with a new game every year and forgetting their other games existed until they wanted to sell a new rulebook, which was also every year for every game.

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Spartan were amazing in their output volume and the quality of their designs at that volume. But yes I do agree whilst it was one of their strengths it was also a huge weakness. I remember how they'd burn bridges as fast as they could build them because they couldn't keep every game in stock nor in focus with new additions all the time so suddenly they'd switch focus and one game would be ignored whilst another got all the attention or a brand new game would land on the market.

I think back then part of the issue was those new games always generated a LOT of attention and buzz and likely sales and I think they needed those cash injections to stay afloat. Or at least they were stuck in a rut of seeking them.


Whatever happened it was a huge shame when they closed doors.

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 Overread wrote:
Spartan were amazing in their output volume and the quality of their designs at that volume. But yes I do agree whilst it was one of their strengths it was also a huge weakness. I remember how they'd burn bridges as fast as they could build them because they couldn't keep every game in stock nor in focus with new additions all the time so suddenly they'd switch focus and one game would be ignored whilst another got all the attention or a brand new game would land on the market.


That is quite likely to be the case for Warcradle Studios too. They have a very large portfolio of games they inherited from Spartan, and that's very tricky to juggle.

That being said, I think the move to plastic sprues instead of all resin ships, can alleviate the stock issues loads. If a single sprue is anywhere between 3-8 cruiser variants and 1-2 small ship variants, stock issues shouldn't be an issue.

There was a question about a year ago as well asked by Warcradle Studios what name the third type of sprue should get (I think it had options like assault squadrons, escort squadrons etc)... So at least 3 plastic sprues per faction seems to be what they are aiming for with Dystopian Wars.

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Looking forward to it! I've been waiting until any EU shop gets all the Russians in stock at the same time, and I now have it all in the mail - Starter, Mozhayski and Murmansk. Looking at the Orbat now I wish I had gotten another Support Squadron to build max units of 2 different types for Battlefleet unlocks... but probably they'll be thrown into the next Russian box set too anyway. I don't even feel like the 9 Forntline sprues I get is too many, so that's a good sign for sales figures.

What would be neat would be including new bitz for old cruisers on new sprues, to give more options in less space.


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Commonwealth ORBAT just updated and dropped new concept art



Also entry for a Moskva heavy battleship, which looks unfortunately uninspired, just a Borodino+1, doesn't do anything new or interesting.

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I do wonder what type of ships those are? Submarine art so far seemed to have a red waterline level... So I'm guessing these might be the Russian Skimmer ships?

They look awesome anyway!

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Yes they are resulpts or existing Russian airships.

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They remind me that WC is distinctly a touch more Diesel than Steam with many of their overt designs - fewer boilers and cogs on show.

That said those new airships look very cool! Not 100% sure on the one with the drill, makes sense for sea ships and the like, in the air seems a bit risky esp as there aren't float... WAIT does this mean the Russians can make floating icebergs?!

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https://blog.warcradle.com/blog/june-releases-the-sultanate-secure-their-position-with-the-help-of-the-suleiman

Sultanate already getting their heavy carrier and support cruisers!

(also Wild West Exodus seems to have plastic jetbikes?!?!)

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
https://blog.warcradle.com/blog/june-releases-the-sultanate-secure-their-position-with-the-help-of-the-suleiman

Sultanate already getting their heavy carrier and support cruisers!

(also Wild West Exodus seems to have plastic jetbikes?!?!)


Plastic Jetbikes were a thing in WWX for a good while

But the new Sultanate stuff so soon is certainly exciting.
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