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Does anyone know the stats on the telly port megablasta yet for the new or flyer?

mhalko1 wrote:
Does anyone know the stats on the telly port megablasta yet for the new or flyer?

Its ork tech, so it probably has some kind of D6 Strength and AP modifier, and will get hot on rolls of 1-2. Also if it rolls a 6 (usually a good thing for weapons) it will over power the shot and the model carrying the weapon explodes in place. Also it kicks your puppy and drinks the last mountain dew in the fridge without telling anyone.

Probably on a roll of 6 all the ork players models leave the table and enter ongoing reserves and reenters via deep strike on a 2+ and can assault the same turn it deep strikes.

The catch is the writers forgot that all a players models not being on the table is an automatic loss.

Well, after compare the new marine ships and the ork ship and realiced that the weapons of the ork are waaay more gak than the cool weapons of the marine ship.
That the WS of the ork is 2 while the marine is 4
And that the ork is just 10 10 10 while marine surely will be 11 or 12
Aaaand that, in addittion, the marine one is CHEAPER....

I only can say that sure the Tellyport megablasta will be an small area of S3+1d6 or fp2. But is you roll a 1, 3 or 5 the flyer and ork troops on 2d6 inches arround will dissapeared forever xD

[edit ] found the rules they are MEGA underwhelming it only adds range : P

https://youtu.be/r1xOolOuMEg?t=10m25s

so is true, GW hates orks players and they mocked us


Also is better dont comapre the new flyer marine with the okr, since the ork loses in every single aspect.....and is more expensive in points!!! woooo, all hail the gw logic!

I wanted a Tellypora blasta on a flyer as soon as the big mek could use one. The idea sounded fun but obviously crazy at the time. Who am I not to use it when GW actually made it possible. So I converted one and I am going to use it and will probably enjoy using it as a mobile KFF for a while.
It is just a shame that it doesn't have good rules.




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Franarok wrote:

Also is better dont comapre the new flyer marine with the okr, since the ork loses in every single aspect.....and is more expensive in points!!! woooo, all hail the gw logic!

I stopped doing this. Orks are no longer an army intended to play games with for me.
The games I play with them are just an excuse to model armies while waiting at a new codex.

I think that if they upscaled the weapons from small blast to large blast it would do wonders. It would infringe upon the blitza bomba a bit, but if you adjusted the points and buffed the boom bombs a bit (making them S10 for instance), it would work out pretty good.

But dham, they could put the option of a Shokk gun or a version of it.


Noooooot the best weapon of the game (and maybe you could loos the plane and any ork near xDD), but damn, at least is more usefull than the mega (ha) tellyporta blasta.

I mean, they gave to the marine 2 laser canon shots, an assault cannon twinlinked and a heavy bolter twinlinked (that you can raise to S7 for 5 pts...) and f12 11 11....

And at same time release the new ork? omg, is this some kind of joke?

So its just a 18in ranged version of the same weapon....that is kind of ..underwhelming to say the least.

I expected nothing more.

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
I expected nothing more.

Well the Kustom Mega Blasta is a S8 AP2 Assault weapon with short range. On the other hand the KMK Kustom Mega Kannon is a significantly longer ranged version of the same weapon that gains blast.

If this stupid weapon was simply upgraded to large blast it would be completely worth it, as is...its utter trash and more then likely a liability.

Na its not the size of the blast. Its the rate of fire and the Bs.
If it was assault 3, bs3 vs ground it would be kinda nice. Monsters don't really care for large blasts.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Na its not the size of the blast. Its the rate of fire and the Bs.
If it was assault 3, bs3 vs ground it would be kinda nice. Monsters don't really care for large blasts.

Very true, I was just saying that it should have gotten some kind of buff. I mean hell, the damned model costs 180pts upgraded, and for that price I can have a fully kitted out Battle Wagon with points left over....and the BW will probably survive longer!

Just another wonderful example of GW giving Orks the fething Finger.

 Grimskul wrote:
I think that if they upscaled the weapons from small blast to large blast it would do wonders. It would infringe upon the blitza bomba a bit, but if you adjusted the points and buffed the boom bombs a bit (making them S10 for instance), it would work out pretty good.

It won't since the blitza bomber became utterly useless with the FAQ.

What did the FAQ do to it ?

Hey all not to be rude but what the hell are you all on about?

The tellyporta mega blasta is as follows

18", Str 8 ap2, assault 1, blast

So it loses 6" on the kmk, loses gets hot, gains tellyported and is assault

This means it benefits from being attatched to a waaagh plane and fires twice every time you waaagh and the range doesn't matter because it's on a damn flyer, 36" movement ftw

 oldzoggy wrote:
What did the FAQ do to it ?

Q: Can a Flyer perform a bombing run the turn after it Jinks?
A: No.

And it's possible that jinkers will be able to use it against bombing runs but i'm not sure yet.

Anywayz, the thing is you can no longer jink and bomb with your 135 pt 10-10-10 bomber. Means any interceptor or literally any shooting of s5+ aimed at your flyer is a much larger problem than it used to be.

Qwerty2jam wrote:
Hey all not to be rude but what the hell are you all on about?

The tellyporta mega blasta is as follows

18", Str 8 ap2, assault 1, blast

So it loses 6" on the kmk, loses gets hot, gains tellyported and is assault

This means it benefits from being attatched to a waaagh plane and fires twice every time you waaagh and the range doesn't matter because it's on a damn flyer, 36" movement ftw

We were making a bunch of jokes at the expense of GW's horrible rule writing abilities.

Also KMK is range 36, or twice as long as the tellyporta Mega Blasta, It is also more survivable when used on Artillery. Also, i guess you have never played Warhammer 40k 7th edition as orks have you? If you had played you would know that every race in the galaxy laughs at Ork flyers because AV10 all around = giant dead flyer.

You could give this stupid thing 3 Tellyporta mega blastas and It wouldn't change the fact that the plane is doomed.

It's rather odd. Though, with current overheat rules it's a mandatory upgrade over KMB.

Franarok wrote:
so is true, GW hates orks players and they mocked us


Also is better dont comapre the new flyer marine with the okr, since the ork loses in every single aspect.....and is more expensive in points!!! woooo, all hail the gw logic!

The Ork flyer is more expensive in points...for the first flyer only.

Additional Wazbom flyers are 125 pts rather than 140.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Franarok wrote:
so is true, GW hates orks players and they mocked us


Also is better dont comapre the new flyer marine with the okr, since the ork loses in every single aspect.....and is more expensive in points!!! woooo, all hail the gw logic!

The Ork flyer is more expensive in points...for the first flyer only.

Additional Wazbom flyers are 125 pts rather than 140.

And when upgraded to the same level as the first one they cost an aditional 20-40pts depending on how you want to build it.

Point being they are MASSIVELY over priced for what little they bring to the table, the Marine flyer has more dakka, has better armor and better upgrade options. The only thing the Ork flyer has going for it is the bonus's for taking the wings....which correct me if I am wrong, the Marine player gets as well.

Overall this is yet another phoned in attempt to increase Ork sales. If they really wanted to increase ork sales all they would need to do is release a new codex that actually functions on its own without house ruling the crap out of it.

SemperMortis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Franarok wrote:
so is true, GW hates orks players and they mocked us


Also is better dont comapre the new flyer marine with the okr, since the ork loses in every single aspect.....and is more expensive in points!!! woooo, all hail the gw logic!

The Ork flyer is more expensive in points...for the first flyer only.

Additional Wazbom flyers are 125 pts rather than 140.

And when upgraded to the same level as the first one they cost an aditional 20-40pts depending on how you want to build it.

125 points base plus upgrades somehow becomes more expensive than 140 points base plus upgrades?

All of the upgrades for the Wazbom are points based. That 15 point discount on additional Wazboms is kinda nice.

Point being they are MASSIVELY over priced for what little they bring to the table, the Marine flyer has more dakka, has better armor and better upgrade options. The only thing the Ork flyer has going for it is the bonus's for taking the wings....which correct me if I am wrong, the Marine player gets as well.

Yes, Marine players get Wing Leader benefits as well. Each race has their own table(Orks get 2 tables). The Stormhawk is a Fighter, which means that they're always at -1 BS when firing against Ground Targets(read: Anything which is not Flyers, Skimmers, Jetbikes, FMCs, or FGCs) even when not opting to fire as Skyfire.


So yeah, Marine players get bonuses for taking Wings same as anybody else...but the Wazbom actually comes with its own Wing Leader table.
Mekboss Wing Leaders get to add 6" to the range of all weapons on their Flyer, add 1 to the Strength of all weapons on the boss' Flyer, and increase the number of shots made by the weapons on the boss' Flyer by 1(cannot be applied to One Use Only weapons).

Flyboss Wing Leaders(read: anything not a Wazbom) get to add 2 to the AV of the Flyer until it suffers a glancing or penetrating hit and then loses the bonus for the remainder of the game(the rickety armour plates fall off), the 3-4 result lets them roll on the Mekboss Wing Leader table, and Blessing of Gork(or possibly Mork) lets them roll a D6 each time you lose a HP and on a 5 or 6 the HP is not lost.

The Kustom Wazmob(1 Wazbom Blastajet and 3 other Ork Flyers organized together into a single Wing) gets to have a 3+ Invulnerable Save if the Wing is put into Fortitude Attack Pattern(the 'flying square' which normally grants a 4+ Invul, all of the weapons on the Flyers get given Interceptor, and the Flyers all get IWND).

The Wazbom isn't going to be breaking down doors or leading Orks into a new golden age of tournament domination, but it isn't exactly bad.

Overall this is yet another phoned in attempt to increase Ork sales. If they really wanted to increase ork sales all they would need to do is release a new codex that actually functions on its own without house ruling the crap out of it.

It's not abysmal bad - just not good enough to field. If you want to win with orks - you got to aim for maelstorm and expensive flyers with underwhelming dakka and durability that can't even land to score anything are not exactly helping.

 Kanluwen wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Franarok wrote:
so is true, GW hates orks players and they mocked us


Also is better dont comapre the new flyer marine with the okr, since the ork loses in every single aspect.....and is more expensive in points!!! woooo, all hail the gw logic!

The Ork flyer is more expensive in points...for the first flyer only.

Additional Wazbom flyers are 125 pts rather than 140.

And when upgraded to the same level as the first one they cost an aditional 20-40pts depending on how you want to build it.

125 points base plus upgrades somehow becomes more expensive than 140 points base plus upgrades?

All of the upgrades for the Wazbom are points based. That 15 point discount on additional Wazboms is kinda nice.

Point being they are MASSIVELY over priced for what little they bring to the table, the Marine flyer has more dakka, has better armor and better upgrade options. The only thing the Ork flyer has going for it is the bonus's for taking the wings....which correct me if I am wrong, the Marine player gets as well.

Yes, Marine players get Wing Leader benefits as well. Each race has their own table(Orks get 2 tables). The Stormhawk is a Fighter, which means that they're always at -1 BS when firing against Ground Targets(read: Anything which is not Flyers, Skimmers, Jetbikes, FMCs, or FGCs) even when not opting to fire as Skyfire.


So yeah, Marine players get bonuses for taking Wings same as anybody else...but the Wazbom actually comes with its own Wing Leader table.
Mekboss Wing Leaders get to add 6" to the range of all weapons on their Flyer, add 1 to the Strength of all weapons on the boss' Flyer, and increase the number of shots made by the weapons on the boss' Flyer by 1(cannot be applied to One Use Only weapons).

Flyboss Wing Leaders(read: anything not a Wazbom) get to add 2 to the AV of the Flyer until it suffers a glancing or penetrating hit and then loses the bonus for the remainder of the game(the rickety armour plates fall off), the 3-4 result lets them roll on the Mekboss Wing Leader table, and Blessing of Gork(or possibly Mork) lets them roll a D6 each time you lose a HP and on a 5 or 6 the HP is not lost.

The Kustom Wazmob(1 Wazbom Blastajet and 3 other Ork Flyers organized together into a single Wing) gets to have a 3+ Invulnerable Save if the Wing is put into Fortitude Attack Pattern(the 'flying square' which normally grants a 4+ Invul, all of the weapons on the Flyers get given Interceptor, and the Flyers all get IWND).

The Wazbom isn't going to be breaking down doors or leading Orks into a new golden age of tournament domination, but it isn't exactly bad.

Overall this is yet another phoned in attempt to increase Ork sales. If they really wanted to increase ork sales all they would need to do is release a new codex that actually functions on its own without house ruling the crap out of it.

So if I take 4 over priced flyers they become usable, well that is good to know. Of course to do so I am going to be fielding around 500-600pts in flyers that can't score and put out a very limited amount of dakka. Wazbom = 180pts and 3 x dakkajets with the upgraded gun = 390 so 390+180 = 570. If you want to take the Blitza Bomba which is considered the better option then your adding a lot more points to that total (with upgrades of course)